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TOP NBA POINT GUARDS OF 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
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Here we have the leading point guards of the NBA in 2011-2012 ranked according to number of plays made per 36 minutes playing time. This is "AST" in the chart. The assists and all other items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

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Here now are how the best point guards in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:
Player               Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB DRB  AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Steve Nash PHO 1961 5.4 10.2 1.0 2.6 2.3 2.6 0.5 2.9 12.2 0.7 0.1 4.2 1.0 14.2 .532 .390 .894
Rajon Rondo BOS 1957 4.7 10.5 0.2 0.8 2.0 3.3 1.1 3.6 11.4 1.7 0.1 3.6 1.8 11.6 .448 .238 .597
Jose Calderon TOR 1799 4.4 9.5 1.2 3.2 1.2 1.4 0.4 2.8 9.4 0.9 0.1 2.1 1.9 11.1 .457 .371 .882
Chris Paul LAC 2181 7.0 14.7 1.3 3.5 4.3 5.0 0.7 2.8 9.0 2.5 0.1 2.0 2.3 19.6 .478 .371 .861
Andre Miller DEN 1809 4.8 11.0 0.4 1.7 2.7 3.4 1.1 3.3 8.8 1.3 0.2 3.5 2.6 12.7 .438 .217 .811
Tony Parker SAS 1923 8.0 16.7 0.3 1.1 4.2 5.3 0.4 2.8 8.7 1.1 0.1 2.9 1.4 20.5 .480 .230 .799
Jamaal Tinsley UTA 507 4.0 10.0 0.7 2.6 0.9 1.2 0.4 2.8 8.7 1.2 0.6 3.7 3.3 9.7 .404 .270 .765
Deron Williams NJN 1999 7.0 17.3 2.1 6.2 4.6 5.5 0.4 2.9 8.7 1.2 0.4 3.9 2.2 20.8 .407 .336 .843
Ricky Rubio MIN 1404 3.6 10.0 0.8 2.4 3.2 4.0 0.5 3.8 8.6 2.3 0.2 3.4 2.5 11.2 .357 .340 .803
Jonny Flynn TOT 416 4.0 11.3 0.9 2.9 2.5 3.4 0.7 2.7 8.3 0.5 0.2 3.1 2.0 11.3 .351 .294 .744
Jeremy Lin NYK 940 6.5 14.7 0.9 2.9 5.6 7.0 0.7 3.4 8.3 2.1 0.3 4.8 3.0 19.6 .446 .320 .798
Baron Davis NYK 595 4.1 11.1 1.6 5.1 1.0 1.5 0.8 2.6 8.2 2.1 0.2 4.6 3.7 10.8 .370 .306 .667
Jose Barea MIN 1032 5.8 14.6 1.8 5.0 2.7 3.4 0.5 3.5 8.1 0.7 0.0 3.6 2.1 16.2 .400 .371 .776
Derrick Rose CHI 1375 7.9 18.2 1.4 4.5 5.1 6.3 0.7 2.7 8.0 0.9 0.7 3.1 1.4 22.3 .435 .312 .812
John Wall WAS 2386 5.7 13.5 0.0 0.6 4.8 6.1 0.7 3.8 8.0 1.4 0.9 3.8 2.1 16.2 .423 .071 .789
D.J. Augustin CHA 1408 4.7 12.5 1.6 4.6 2.7 3.1 0.6 2.2 7.8 0.9 0.0 2.8 1.7 13.6 .376 .341 .875
Beno Udrih MIL 1080 4.9 11.1 0.6 2.0 1.3 1.8 0.9 2.5 7.6 1.2 0.0 2.6 2.3 11.6 .440 .288 .709
Greivis Vasquez NOH 1706 4.7 11.0 0.9 2.8 2.0 2.5 0.5 3.2 7.6 1.3 0.2 3.1 2.7 12.4 .430 .319 .821
Earl Watson UTA 1033 1.9 5.6 0.3 1.8 1.1 1.6 1.0 3.2 7.6 1.9 0.8 3.0 3.7 5.2 .338 .192 .674
Ramon Sessions TOT 1707 5.1 11.9 0.9 2.0 4.1 5.2 0.7 3.8 7.5 0.9 0.1 3.0 2.1 15.2 .428 .443 .782
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Raymond Felton POR 1906 4.9 12.1 1.2 3.8 1.9 2.3 0.5 2.3 7.4 1.5 0.2 3.2 2.3 12.9 .407 .305 .806
Kyle Lowry HOU 1510 5.0 12.2 1.9 5.0 4.1 4.7 0.9 4.2 7.4 1.7 0.3 3.1 3.2 16.0 .409 .374 .864
Goran Dragic HOU 1752 5.7 12.3 1.4 4.2 3.1 3.9 1.1 2.4 7.2 1.7 0.2 3.2 3.4 15.9 .462 .337 .805
Nate Robinson GSW 1192 6.2 14.6 2.0 5.5 2.8 3.4 0.5 2.6 7.0 1.8 0.1 2.3 3.6 17.2 .424 .365 .832
Manu Ginobili SAS 792 6.8 13.0 2.4 5.7 4.0 4.6 0.8 4.5 6.9 1.1 0.5 2.9 2.5 20.0 .526 .413 .871
Charles Jenkins GSW 893 5.2 11.7 0.1 0.8 1.4 1.6 0.3 2.4 6.9 1.3 0.2 2.4 3.4 12.0 .447 .150 .872
Jason Kidd DAL 1379 2.6 7.1 2.1 5.8 0.6 0.7 0.4 4.8 6.9 2.1 0.3 2.4 2.2 7.8 .363 .354 .786
Jameer Nelson ORL 1706 5.5 12.8 1.8 4.9 1.5 1.9 0.6 3.2 6.9 0.8 0.1 2.8 2.7 14.3 .427 .377 .807
Stephen Curry GSW 732 7.1 14.6 2.7 6.0 1.9 2.3 0.7 3.6 6.8 1.9 0.4 3.2 3.0 18.8 .490 .455 .809
Ty Lawson DEN 2124 6.3 13.0 1.2 3.4 3.0 3.7 0.9 2.9 6.8 1.4 0.1 2.5 1.6 16.9 .488 .365 .824
Mike Conley MEM 2174 4.9 11.3 1.0 2.6 2.3 2.6 0.4 2.2 6.7 2.3 0.2 2.1 2.2 13.0 .433 .377 .861
Jarrett Jack NOH 1530 6.3 13.7 0.9 2.6 3.0 3.5 0.5 3.6 6.7 0.7 0.2 2.5 2.2 16.5 .456 .348 .872
Devin Harris UTA 1741 5.0 11.2 1.6 4.4 3.2 4.3 0.2 2.1 6.5 1.3 0.3 2.5 2.8 14.8 .445 .362 .746
Kyrie Irving CLE 1558 8.1 17.3 1.7 4.2 4.0 4.5 1.0 3.4 6.4 1.2 0.5 3.7 2.5 21.8 .469 .399 .872
C.J. Watson CHI 1159 5.0 13.6 2.1 5.4 2.6 3.2 0.7 2.6 6.2 1.4 0.2 3.0 3.2 14.7 .368 .393 .808
Shelvin Mack WAS 779 4.1 10.2 0.6 1.9 1.9 2.7 0.6 3.7 6.1 1.3 0.1 2.2 2.3 10.6 .400 .286 .712
Jerryd Bayless TOR 705 6.0 14.1 2.2 5.3 3.8 4.5 0.4 3.0 6.0 1.2 0.2 2.7 3.6 18.0 .424 .423 .852
LeBron James MIA 2326 9.6 18.1 0.8 2.3 6.0 7.8 1.5 6.2 6.0 1.8 0.8 3.3 1.5 26.0 .531 .362 .771



Friday, August 7, 2009

Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal may Fight for Their Fifth Rings in 2010, but Rajon Rondo and Dwyane Wade are Destined for More Rings

I realized the other day that despite there being a number of great independent basketball sites and despite there being a number of very large Corporate sports sites, there was no where on the internet where you can quickly find out how many Championship rings have been won by players. So this week, Quest for the Ring rescued the Internet from that poverty with four separate Reports, giving you that capability in many different formats and sorts.

Aside from rescuing the Internet and the basketball world from that glaring oversight (and reminding George Karl for the umpteenth time that the 3-point shot is here to stay) why did we do this? We previously stated one important reason: players who have won the Ring are more likely to win more Rings, all other things equal.

And the more Rings a player has won, the more his "theoretically exact" Real Player Rating (RPR) is higher than his calculated by Quest RPR. I like this rule of thumb:

AMOUNTS TO ADD TO A PLAYERS' REAL PLAYER RATING FOR RINGS WON
One Ring: .040
Two Rings: .070
Three Rings: .090
Four Rings: .100
Five Rings: .110
Six Rings: .120
Add .010 for each additional Ring.

So for example, since Kobe Bryant has won four Rings, you had better, if you want to know his real theoretical value, in your mind add .100 to Bryant's RPR whenever you see his latest RPR.

BEYOND REAL PLAYER RATING
RPR is all about actual, real performance. But RPR was designed, more than anything else, so that managers, coaches, and fans could see the real value of players, so that they can then determine correct playing times and correct trades and so forth.

RPR by itself is more useful for coaches managing a team in games than it is for managers determining trades and acquisitions. RPR is still a crucial thing for those managers, but they have to look at other things as well to be able to make the right trades and the right acquisitions. Although RPR may be the great majority or vast majority of what is needed for managers to evaluate the "real player value" (RPV) there are some other factors that would be needed:

SOME FACTORS NEEDED BY MANAGERS BESIDES RPR TO DETERMINE REAL VALUE OF PLAYERS (RPV)
1. Number of Rings won
2. Number of Playoff series won
3. Injury History
4. Age
5. Quality of teams played for during career
6. Variability of RPR, if variability exceeds the norm.
(These were in no particular order.)

Remember, before you even think of calling any of this unimportant, these players are being paid millions per year, and Rings are hanging in the balance. So these things are more important than the average Joe might think.

In the months and years to come, we will be working on RPV, although since RPR will comprise roughly 70% of RPV, and since some of the RPV factors are relatively easy to gauge "on the fly," given the dozens of other things we want to do, it will probably be a little later than a little sooner before RPV is actually born.

For right now we'll settle for looking at one of the factors in the future RPV: the number of rings won. The following is a complete list of all current NBA players who have won one or more rings, ranked by the total number of minutes they played during seasons when they won a Ring, with both the number of rings and the number of minutes limited to where the player played at least 1200 minutes, which works out to just shy of one quarter per game, which is 12 minutes long.

CURRENT NBA PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF MINUTES PLAYED IN ALL YEARS
THEY WON A RING, LIMITED TO WHEN THEY PLAYED 1200 MINUTES OR MORE
Player / Number of Minutes / Number of Rings

Kobe Bryant 11330 4
Shaquille O'Neal 10315 4
Tim Duncan 10072 4
Tony Parker 8008 3
Bruce Bowen 7657 3
Derek Fisher 6218 3
Manu Ginobili 5684 3
James Posey 3735 2
Brent Barry 3373 2
Ben Wallace 3050 1
Pau Gasol 2999 1
Dwyane Wade 2892 1
Paul Pierce 2874 1
Richard Hamilton 2772 1
Chauncey Billups 2758 1
Tayshaun Prince 2701 1
Ray Allen 2624 1
Udonis Haslem 2491 1
Kevin Garnett 2328 1
Lamar Odom 2316 1
Rajon Rondo 2306 1
Stephen Jackson 2254 1
Trevor Ariza 1998 1
Malik Rose 1933 1
Kendrick Perkins 1912 1
Michael Finley 1823 1
Rasho Nesterovic 1785 1
Devean George 1759 1
Lindsey Hunter 1616 1
Mehmet Okur 1580 1
Eddie House 1480 1
Andrew Bynum 1446 1
Tony Allen 1373 1
Fabricio Oberto 1365 1
Francisco Elson 1332 1
Sasha Vujacic 1293 1
Devin Brown 1238 1

A few weeks ago, Kobe Bryant of the Lakers tied Shaquille O'Neal and Tim Duncan for most number of Rings won by active players: four Rings. Since the Suns (what in the hell are they doing now for God's sakes?) traded O'Neal to the Cavaliers, and since the most likely 2010 NBA final is Cavaliers-Lakers, the number of rings will be an interesting subplot of this coming season. If that is the Championship series, it will be Kobe Bryant versus Shaquille O'Neal in the battle for who will be the King of the NBA in terms of number of rings won.

YOUNG AND MID-AGE PLAYERS WHO HAVE ALREAY WON A RING WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO WIN MORE RINGS
If you really know basketball and details about the players on this list, its not difficult to estimate who on this list is most likely to increase their Ring totals in the years ahead:

Pau Gasol [RPR: 1.000]
One of the three historically great Lakers (along with Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom, and the young Andrew Bynum is about ready to join the club) this 29 years old, seven foot Center-Power Forward is cool as a cucumber and definitely fulfills the need for serious Quest contenders to have a top notch Center who is both a great defender and either a great finisher or a great shooter, preferably both.

Dwyane Wade [RPR: 1.295]
This 27 year old Miami Heat combo guard ruined owner Marc Cuban's Ring dream in 2006 by combining with Shaquille O'Neal to defeat Dirk Nowitzki (0 Rings) and the Dallas Mavericks. This high energy relentless scoring machine would be handed an extra ring for sheer talent and persistence if that were allowed. As he himself realizes, all he needs is at least one great or at least two really good centers / power forwards, and he is all set to go for Ring #2.

Lamar Odom [RPR: .923]
This 6'10" Los Angeles Lakers power forward turns 30 this November. Odom represents about what scientists would make if they wanted to make the perfect player and they could in the lab put any combination of genes together they wanted. Odom combines a substantial amount of the great majority of the physical and athletic characteristics needed to win NBA playoff games. The most outstanding specific thing to note is that Odom does all three of the most crucial things you want a power forward to do: (a)defend intensely but skillfully, (b)be able to finish very well, and (c)when the lane is clogged or the clock is running out, be able to knock down mid-range jumpers and even some threes. That the Lakers have Odom is living proof that their managers are some serious basketball people who don't fool around when it comes to winning Rings, because Odom is a Ring machine if there ever was one.

Rajon Rondo [RPR: .938]
If Odom is a Ring Machine up front, Rondo is seemingly a backcourt Ring Machine. Just 23 years old and just 6'1" tall, he has quickly become one of the best half dozen point guards in the NBA. But more than that, his shooting percentage is off the charts for a point guard, and his hustle factor and will to win are at least close to being off the charts as well. That Rondo's Boston Celtics were even in the Series with the Magic this spring, let alone taking it to seven games, despite being without Historical Superstar Kevin Garnett, shows you right there that Rondo has to be among the players most likely to win more Rings.

Andrew Bynum [RPR: .940]
Yet another Laker Center-Power Forward, Bynum is just 22 this October, is 7 foot tall, and has the perfect body for basketball along with superb athletic talent. Bynum has noticed that Coach Phil Jackson doesn't give him full credit for all of his abilities, which is a good thing; it shows you that Bynum understands the different components that go into winning playoff games. Roughly speaking, think of Bynum as the front court version of Rondo: a very young player who has "more Rings coming" written all over his bball shoes. But whereas Rondo is a hustler and a clever devil, Bynum is more of a very powerful and very athletic machine, which is exactly the way its supposed to break down between the front court players who can win Rings and guards who can win them.

If you get any of these players on your team, I can guarantee you are instantly at least a long shot contender to win the Quest, and you could be instantly the next level up, a "wildcard contender". You are probably a major contender (there are three by rule) if you have any two of these kinds of players (including players with zero rings but having the right stuff to start getting them).

EXACTLY HOW MANY SUPERSTARS DOES IT TAKE?
First, here is what we are talking about; here are the three types of superstars as defined by RPR:
Major Historical Superstar: 1.100 and higher
Historical Superstar: 1.000 to 1.099
Superstar: .900 to .999

Generally, to be a major contender to win the Quest, you must start with one of the following:

1. A Major Historical Superstar and some damn good coaching if that's the only Superstar you have.

2. Two Historical Superstars

3. One Historical Superstar and two Superstars

4. Three Superstars

Although it is difficult for a team to get any one of these superstar combinations, this is more or less the mimumum requirement to be able to have a truly good shot at winning a Ring. No one said this stuff was easy.

Is it possible to be a major contender, or even to win the Quest without meeting any of these qualifying Superstar requirements? Yes, but the odds are fairly strongly against you, even if you have outstanding coaching, outstanding defense, outstanding hustle, outstanding whatever.

So always remember: the real skill level of players is at or very near the top of the mountain when it comes to winning the Quest.

Don't forget too that, due to the so-called crowding out factor, the "perfectly measured in a vacuum" Real Player Ratings of many of the players on the best teams are about 10% higher than the already very high actual RPRs that you see.

DWYANE WADE................................................ WADE ON THE MOVE






















COACH DOC RIVERS AND POINT GUARD RAJON RONDO

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

Players Ranked by Number of Championships and Rings Won 1980-2009

PREVIOUS REPORTS CLOSELY RELATED TO THIS ONE
Already reported out are the players of all Championship teams 1980-1994 and 1995-2009.

In this Report you can find two alphabetical lists of all players who won the Quest for the Ring between 1980 and 2009, with an entry for each time each player won. Each entry consists of (1)The name of the player (2)the player's team (3)the age of the player when he won and (4)the number of minutes he played during the season he won the Quest. See the roster logs referenced and linked to at the top of this Report if you need to know the year(s) the player won.

Obviously, that is the Report to use to look up any player by name. But also in that one, you can quickly tell how many rings each player has won, simply by observing how many times (in a row) his name appears. The alphabetical sorting is by first name.

THIS REPORT RIGHT HERE
What's in the present Report below are the following goodies:

--Players ranked according to number of rings won among all Quest winners who played at least 300 minutes in the year(s) they won, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to number of rings won among all Quest winners who played
at least 1200 minutes in one year(s) they won, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to the total number of minutes they played during all years they won the Quest, among all Quest winners who played at least 300 minutes, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to the total number of minutes they played during all years they won the Quest, among all Quest winners who played at least 1200 minutes, for the 30 years 1980-2009.

In summary, the first two are the straight up number of rings won during 1980-2009 by all players who played at least 300 minutes and then 1200 minutes. The other two rank players according to the total number of minutes they played in years they won the Quest, first for the 300+ minutes players and then for the 1200+ minutes players.

========= NBA PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS WON ==========
1980-2009
Inclusive Listing: All players who played 300 minutes or more
Rank / Player / Number of Rings Won / Total Minutes Played During Years Quest was won

(1) Robert Horry 7 12376
(2) Michael Jordan 6 18580
Scottie Pippen 6 16873
(4) Dennis Rodman 5 11476
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13199
Magic Johnson 5 14108
Michael Cooper 5 10405
Ron Harper 5 9091
Steve Kerr 5 6585
(10) Derek Fisher 4 6927
Horace Grant 4 10635
Kobe Bryant 4 11330
Kurt Rambis 4 5107
Robert Parish 4 8138
Shaquille O'Neal 4 10315
Tim Duncan 4 10072
Will Perdue 4 3422
(18) A.C. Green 3 6805
B.J. Armstrong 3 6098
Bill Cartwright 3 4997
Bill Wennington 3 2315
Brian Shaw 3 3713
Bruce Bowen 3 7657
Byron Scott 3 8082
Devean George 3 2697
Gerald Henderson 3 4031
Jamaal Wilkes 3 6778
James Worthy 3 8170
Jason Caffey 3 2660
John Paxson 3 4947
John Salley 3 3675
Jud Buechler 3 2051
Kevin McHale 3 6619
Larry Bird 3 9380
Luc Longley 3 4816
Malik Rose 3 3403
Manu Ginobili 3 5684
Mario Elie 3 4793
Randy Brown 3 2875
Rick Fox 3 6053
Scott Williams 3 2396
Stacey King 3 3525
Toni Kukoc 3 5948
Tony Parker 3 8008
(45) Beno Udrih 2 2097
Bill Laimbeer 2 5315
Bob McAdoo 2 2000
Brent Barry 2 3373
Carl Herrera 2 2623
Cedric Maxwell 2 5232
Cliff Levingston 2 2033
Craig Hodges 2 1398
Danny Ainge 2 3561
David Robinson 2 3230
Dennis Johnson 2 5397
Dickey Simpkins 2 1080
Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6130
Isiah Thomas 2 5917
James Edwards 2 3537
James Posey 2 3735
Joe Dumars 2 4986
Kenny Smith 2 4239
Lindsey Hunter 2 2277
M.L. Carr 2 1240
Mark Aguirre 2 3073
Mark Landsberger 2 1508
Mark Madsen 2 1291
Mike McGee 2 1522
Mitch Kupchak 2 1537
Mychal Thompson 2 2687
Norm Nixon 2 6250
Otis Thorpe 2 4097
Sam Cassell 2 3004
Scott Wedman 2 2318
Vernon Maxwell 2 4609
Vinnie Johnson 2 4045
Wes Matthews 2 1238
(78) Adrian Dantley 1 1341
Alonzo Mourning 1 1302
Andrew Bynum 1 1446
Andrew Toney 1 2474
Antoine Walker 1 2199
Antonio Daniels 1 614
Avery Johnson 1 1672
Ben Wallace 1 3050
Bill Walton 1 1546
Billy Thompson 1 762
Bob Hansen 1 769
Bob Sura 1 707
Bobby Jones 1 1749
Brian Scalabrine 1 512
Chauncey Billups 1 2758
Chris Ford 1 2723
Chucky Atkins 1 751
Chucky Brown 1 814
Clemon Johnson 1 698
Clint Richardson 1 1755
Clyde Drexler 1 1300
Corliss Williamson 1 1574
Danny Ferry 1 601
Darrell Walker 1 367
Darvin Ham 1 484
David Thirdkill 1 385
Dennis Hopson 1 728
Derek Anderson 1 465
Devin Brown 1 1238
Don Ford 1 580
Dwyane Wade 1 2892
Earl Cureton 1 987
Eddie House 1 1480
Eddie Jordan 1 608
Elden Campbell 1 892
Fabricio Oberto 1 1365
Francisco Elson 1 1332
Frank Brickowski 1 404
Franklin Edwards 1 1266
Gary Payton 1 2305
Glen Davis 1 940
Glen Rice 1 2530
Greg Foster 1 451
Greg Kite 1 464
Isaiah Rider 1 1206
Jacque Vaughn 1 760
Jaren Jackson 1 861
Jason Kapono 1 665
Jason Williams 1 1874
Jerome Kersey 1 699
Jerry Sichting 1 1596
Jim Brewer 1 966
Jim Chones 1 2394
Joe Kleine 1 397
Jordan Farmar 1 1192
Josh Powell 1 703
Julius Erving 1 2421
Kendrick Perkins 1 1912
Kevin Garnett 1 2328
Kevin Willis 1 840
Lamar Odom 1 2316
Larry Spriggs 1 1292
Leon Powe 1 809
Luke Walton 1 1166
Marc Iavaroni 1 1612
Matt Bonner 1 654
Matt Bullard 1 725
Maurice Cheeks 1 2465
Mehmet Okur 1 1580
Michael Doleac 1 371
Michael Finley 1 1823
Micheal Williams 1 358
Mike James 1 512
Mike Penberthy 1 851
Mike Smrek 1 421
Milt Wagner 1 380
Mitch Richmond 1 709
Moses Malone 1 2922
Nazr Mohammed 1 414
Pau Gasol 1 2999
Paul Pierce 1 2874
Pete Chilcutt 1 1347
Quinn Buckner 1 1249
Rajon Rondo 1 2306
Rasheed Wallace 1 673
Rasho Nesterovic 1 1785
Ray Allen 1 2624
Reggie Johnson 1 549
Richard Hamilton 1 2772
Rick Carlisle 1 760
Rick Mahorn 1 1795
Rick Robey 1 1569
Rodney McCray 1 1019
Russ Schoene 1 702
Sam Vincent 1 432
Samaki Walker 1 1655
Sasha Vujacic 1 1293
Scott Brooks 1 1225
Scott Burrell 1 1096
Sean Elliott 1 1509
Shandon Anderson 1 638
Speedy Claxton 1 471
Spencer Haywood 1 1544
Stanislav Medvedenko 1 729
Stephen Jackson 1 2254
Steve Smith 1 1032
Tayshaun Prince 1 2701
Tim Breaux 1 340
Tiny Archibald 1 2820
Tony Allen 1 1373
Tony Massenburg 1 699
Travis Knight 1 410
Trent Tucker 1 909
Trevor Ariza 1 1998
Tyronn Lue 1 468
Udonis Haslem 1 2491
Vladimir Radmanovic 1 771
Wayne Simien 1 414

NBA PLAYERS RANKED BY NUMBER OF RINGS WON: STARTERS AND HIGH MINUTES NON-STARTERS
1980-2009
Strict Listing: All players who played 1200 minutes or more
Rank / Player / Number of Rings Won / Total Minutes Played During all Winning Seasons

(1) Michael Jordan 6 18580
Robert Horry 6 11252
Scottie Pippen 6 16873
(4) Dennis Rodman 5 11476
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5 13199
Magic Johnson 5 14108
Michael Cooper 5 10405
(8) Horace Grant 4 10635
Kobe Bryant 4 11330
Ron Harper 4 7952
Shaquille O'Neal 4 10315
Tim Duncan 4 10072
(13) A.C. Green 3 6805
B.J. Armstrong 3 6098
Bill Cartwright 3 4997
Bruce Bowen 3 7657
Byron Scott 3 8082
Derek Fisher 3 6218
James Worthy 3 8170
Kevin McHale 3 6619
Larry Bird 3 9380
Luc Longley 3 4816
Manu Ginobili 3 5684
Mario Elie 3 4793
Rick Fox 3 6053
Robert Parish 3 7732
Toni Kukoc 3 5948
Tony Parker 3 8008
(29) Bill Laimbeer 2 5315
Brent Barry 2 3373
Brian Shaw 2 3082
Carl Herrera 2 2623
Cedric Maxwell 2 5232
David Robinson 2 3230
Dennis Johnson 2 5397
Gerald Henderson 2 3696
Hakeem Olajuwon 2 6130
Isiah Thomas 2 5917
Jamaal Wilkes 2 6017
James Edwards 2 3537
James Posey 2 3735
Joe Dumars 2 4986
John Paxson 2 3917
John Salley 2 3372
Kenny Smith 2 4239
Kurt Rambis 2 3131
Norm Nixon 2 6250
Steve Kerr 2 3780
Vernon Maxwell 2 4609
Vinnie Johnson 2 4045
(51) Adrian Dantley 1 1341
Alonzo Mourning 1 1302
Andrew Bynum 1 1446
Andrew Toney 1 2474
Antoine Walker 1 2199
Avery Johnson 1 1672
Ben Wallace 1 3050
Bill Walton 1 1546
Bob McAdoo 1 1254
Bobby Jones 1 1749
Chauncey Billups 1 2758
Chris Ford 1 2723
Clint Richardson 1 1755
Clyde Drexler 1 1300
Corliss Williamson 1 1574
Danny Ainge 1 2407
Devean George 1 1759
Devin Brown 1 1238
Dwyane Wade 1 2892
Eddie House 1 1480
Fabricio Oberto 1 1365
Francisco Elson 1 1332
Franklin Edwards 1 1266
Gary Payton 1 2305
Glen Rice 1 2530
Isaiah Rider 1 1206
Jason Caffey 1 1405
Jason Williams 1 1874
Jerry Sichting 1 1596
Jim Chones 1 2394
Julius Erving 1 2421
Kendrick Perkins 1 1912
Kevin Garnett 1 2328
Lamar Odom 1 2316
Larry Spriggs 1 1292
Lindsey Hunter 1 1616
Malik Rose 1 1933
Marc Iavaroni 1 1612
Mark Aguirre 1 2005
Maurice Cheeks 1 2465
Mehmet Okur 1 1580
Michael Finley 1 1823
Moses Malone 1 2922
Mychal Thompson 1 2007
Otis Thorpe 1 2909
Pau Gasol 1 2999
Paul Pierce 1 2874
Pete Chilcutt 1 1347
Quinn Buckner 1 1249
Rajon Rondo 1 2306
Rasho Nesterovic 1 1785
Ray Allen 1 2624
Richard Hamilton 1 2772
Rick Mahorn 1 1795
Rick Robey 1 1569
Sam Cassell 1 1882
Samaki Walker 1 1655
Sasha Vujacic 1 1293
Scott Brooks 1 1225
Scott Wedman 1 1402
Scott Williams 1 1369
Sean Elliott 1 1509
Spencer Haywood 1 1544
Stacey King 1 1268
Stephen Jackson 1 2254
Tayshaun Prince 1 2701
Tiny Archibald 1 2820
Tony Allen 1 1373
Trevor Ariza 1 1998
Udonis Haslem 1 2491

===== NBA PLAYERS WHO WON ONE OR MORE QUESTS FOR THE RING RANKED ACCORDING TO MINUTES =====
1980-2009
Inclusive Listing: All players who played 300 minutes or more
Rank / Player / Total Minutes Played During all Quest Winning Seasons / Number of Rings

1 Michael Jordan 18580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16873 6
3 Magic Johnson 14108 5
4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13199 5
5 Robert Horry 12376 7
6 Dennis Rodman 11476 5
7 Kobe Bryant 11330 4
8 Horace Grant 10635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10072 4
12 Larry Bird 9380 3
13 Ron Harper 9091 5
14 James Worthy 8170 3
15 Robert Parish 8138 4
16 Byron Scott 8082 3
17 Tony Parker 8008 3
18 Bruce Bowen 7657 3
19 Derek Fisher 6927 4
20 A.C. Green 6805 3
21 Jamaal Wilkes 6778 3
22 Kevin McHale 6619 3
23 Steve Kerr 6585 5
24 Norm Nixon 6250 2
25 Hakeem Olajuwon 6130 2
26 B.J. Armstrong 6098 3
27 Rick Fox 6053 3
28 Toni Kukoc 5948 3
29 Isiah Thomas 5917 2
30 Manu Ginobili 5684 3
31 Dennis Johnson 5397 2
32 Bill Laimbeer 5315 2
33 Cedric Maxwell 5232 2
34 Kurt Rambis 5107 4
35 Bill Cartwright 4997 3
36 Joe Dumars 4986 2
37 John Paxson 4947 3
38 Luc Longley 4816 3
39 Mario Elie 4793 3
40 Vernon Maxwell 4609 2
41 Kenny Smith 4239 2
42 Otis Thorpe 4097 2
43 Vinnie Johnson 4045 2
44 Gerald Henderson 4031 3
45 James Posey 3735 2
46 Brian Shaw 3713 3
47 John Salley 3675 3
48 Danny Ainge 3561 2
49 James Edwards 3537 2
50 Stacey King 3525 3
51 Will Perdue 3422 4
52 Malik Rose 3403 3
53 Brent Barry 3373 2
54 David Robinson 3230 2
55 Mark Aguirre 3073 2
56 Ben Wallace 3050 1
57 Sam Cassell 3004 2
58 Pau Gasol 2999 1
59 Moses Malone 2922 1
60 Dwyane Wade 2892 1
61 Randy Brown 2875 3
62 Paul Pierce 2874 1
63 Tiny Archibald 2820 1
64 Richard Hamilton 2772 1
65 Chauncey Billups 2758 1
66 Chris Ford 2723 1
67 Tayshaun Prince 2701 1
68 Devean George 2697 3
69 Mychal Thompson 2687 2
70 Jason Caffey 2660 3
71 Ray Allen 2624 1
72 Carl Herrera 2623 2
73 Glen Rice 2530 1
74 Udonis Haslem 2491 1
75 Andrew Toney 2474 1
76 Maurice Cheeks 2465 1
77 Julius Erving 2421 1
78 Scott Williams 2396 3
79 Jim Chones 2394 1
80 Kevin Garnett 2328 1
81 Scott Wedman 2318 2
82 Lamar Odom 2316 1
83 Bill Wennington 2315 3
84 Rajon Rondo 2306 1
85 Gary Payton 2305 1
86 Lindsey Hunter 2277 2
87 Stephen Jackson 2254 1
88 Antoine Walker 2199 1
89 Beno Udrih 2097 2
90 Jud Buechler 2051 3
91 Cliff Levingston 2033 2
92 Bob McAdoo 2000 2
93 Trevor Ariza 1998 1
94 Kendrick Perkins 1912 1
95 Jason Williams 1874 1
96 Michael Finley 1823 1
97 Rick Mahorn 1795 1
98 Rasho Nesterovic 1785 1
99 Clint Richardson 1755 1
100 Bobby Jones 1749 1
101 Avery Johnson 1672 1
102 Samaki Walker 1655 1
103 Marc Iavaroni 1612 1
104 Jerry Sichting 1596 1
105 Mehmet Okur 1580 1
106 Corliss Williamson 1574 1
107 Rick Robey 1569 1
108 Bill Walton 1546 1
109 Spencer Haywood 1544 1
110 Mitch Kupchak 1537 2
111 Mike McGee 1522 2
112 Sean Elliott 1509 1
113 Mark Landsberger 1508 2
114 Eddie House 1480 1
115 Andrew Bynum 1446 1
116 Craig Hodges 1398 2
117 Tony Allen 1373 1
118 Fabricio Oberto 1365 1
119 Pete Chilcutt 1347 1
120 Adrian Dantley 1341 1
121 Francisco Elson 1332 1
122 Alonzo Mourning 1302 1
123 Clyde Drexler 1300 1
124 Sasha Vujacic 1293 1
125 Larry Spriggs 1292 1
126 Mark Madsen 1291 2
127 Franklin Edwards 1266 1
128 Quinn Buckner 1249 1
129 M.L. Carr 1240 2
130 Wes Matthews 1238 2
131 Devin Brown 1238 1
132 Scott Brooks 1225 1
133 Isaiah Rider 1206 1
134 Jordan Farmar 1192 1
135 Luke Walton 1166 1
136 Scott Burrell 1096 1
137 Dickey Simpkins 1080 2
138 Steve Smith 1032 1
139 Rodney McCray 1019 1
140 Earl Cureton 987 1
141 Jim Brewer 966 1
142 Glen Davis 940 1
143 Trent Tucker 909 1
144 Elden Campbell 892 1
145 Jaren Jackson 861 1
146 Mike Penberthy 851 1
147 Kevin Willis 840 1
148 Chucky Brown 814 1
149 Leon Powe 809 1
150 Vladimir Radmanovic 771 1
151 Bob Hansen 769 1
152 Billy Thompson 762 1
153 Jacque Vaughn 760 1
154 Rick Carlisle 760 1
155 Chucky Atkins 751 1
156 Stanislav Medvedenko 729 1
157 Dennis Hopson 728 1
158 Matt Bullard 725 1
159 Mitch Richmond 709 1
160 Bob Sura 707 1
161 Josh Powell 703 1
162 Russ Schoene 702 1
163 Jerome Kersey 699 1
164 Tony Massenburg 699 1
165 Clemon Johnson 698 1
166 Rasheed Wallace 673 1
167 Jason Kapono 665 1
168 Matt Bonner 654 1
169 Shandon Anderson 638 1
170 Antonio Daniels 614 1
171 Eddie Jordan 608 1
172 Danny Ferry 601 1
173 Don Ford 580 1
174 Reggie Johnson 549 1
175 Brian Scalabrine 512 1
176 Mike James 512 1
177 Darvin Ham 484 1
178 Speedy Claxton 471 1
179 Tyronn Lue 468 1
180 Derek Anderson 465 1
181 Greg Kite 464 1
182 Greg Foster 451 1
183 Sam Vincent 432 1
184 Mike Smrek 421 1
185 Nazr Mohammed 414 1
186 Wayne Simien 414 1
187 Travis Knight 410 1
188 Frank Brickowski 404 1
189 Joe Kleine 397 1
190 David Thirdkill 385 1
191 Milt Wagner 380 1
192 Michael Doleac 371 1
193 Darrell Walker 367 1
194 Micheal Williams 358 1
195 Tim Breaux 340 1


NBA PLAYERS, STARTERS AND HIGH MINUTES NON-STARTERS, WHO WON ONE OR MORE QUESTS FOR THE RING RANKED ACCORDING TO MINUTES
1980-2009
Strict Listing: All players who played 1200 minutes or more
Rank / Player / Total Minutes Played During all Quest Winning Seasons / Number of Rings

1 Michael Jordan 18580 6
2 Scottie Pippen 16873 6
3 Magic Johnson 14108 5
4 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13199 5
5 Dennis Rodman 11476 5
6 Kobe Bryant 11330 4
7 Robert Horry 11252 6
8 Horace Grant 10635 4
9 Michael Cooper 10405 5
10 Shaquille O'Neal 10315 4
11 Tim Duncan 10072 4
12 Larry Bird 9380 3
13 James Worthy 8170 3
14 Byron Scott 8082 3
15 Tony Parker 8008 3
16 Ron Harper 7952 4
17 Robert Parish 7732 3
18 Bruce Bowen 7657 3
19 A.C. Green 6805 3
20 Kevin McHale 6619 3
21 Norm Nixon 6250 2
22 Derek Fisher 6218 3
23 Hakeem Olajuwon 6130 2
24 B.J. Armstrong 6098 3
25 Rick Fox 6053 3
26 Jamaal Wilkes 6017 2
27 Toni Kukoc 5948 3
28 Isiah Thomas 5917 2
29 Manu Ginobili 5684 3
30 Dennis Johnson 5397 2
31 Bill Laimbeer 5315 2
32 Cedric Maxwell 5232 2
33 Bill Cartwright 4997 3
34 Joe Dumars 4986 2
35 Luc Longley 4816 3
36 Mario Elie 4793 3
37 Vernon Maxwell 4609 2
38 Kenny Smith 4239 2
39 Vinnie Johnson 4045 2
40 John Paxson 3917 2
41 Steve Kerr 3780 2
42 James Posey 3735 2
43 Gerald Henderson 3696 2
44 James Edwards 3537 2
45 Brent Barry 3373 2
46 John Salley 3372 2
47 David Robinson 3230 2
48 Kurt Rambis 3131 2
49 Brian Shaw 3082 2
50 Ben Wallace 3050 1
51 Pau Gasol 2999 1
52 Moses Malone 2922 1
53 Otis Thorpe 2909 1
54 Dwyane Wade 2892 1
55 Paul Pierce 2874 1
56 Tiny Archibald 2820 1
57 Richard Hamilton 2772 1
58 Chauncey Billups 2758 1
59 Chris Ford 2723 1
60 Tayshaun Prince 2701 1
61 Ray Allen 2624 1
62 Carl Herrera 2623 2
63 Glen Rice 2530 1
64 Udonis Haslem 2491 1
65 Andrew Toney 2474 1
66 Maurice Cheeks 2465 1
67 Julius Erving 2421 1
68 Danny Ainge 2407 1
69 Jim Chones 2394 1
70 Kevin Garnett 2328 1
71 Lamar Odom 2316 1
72 Rajon Rondo 2306 1
73 Gary Payton 2305 1
74 Stephen Jackson 2254 1
75 Antoine Walker 2199 1
76 Mychal Thompson 2007 1
77 Mark Aguirre 2005 1
78 Trevor Ariza 1998 1
79 Malik Rose 1933 1
80 Kendrick Perkins 1912 1
81 Sam Cassell 1882 1
82 Jason Williams 1874 1
83 Michael Finley 1823 1
84 Rick Mahorn 1795 1
85 Rasho Nesterovic 1785 1
86 Devean George 1759 1
87 Clint Richardson 1755 1
88 Bobby Jones 1749 1
89 Avery Johnson 1672 1
90 Samaki Walker 1655 1
91 Lindsey Hunter 1616 1
92 Marc Iavaroni 1612 1
93 Jerry Sichting 1596 1
94 Mehmet Okur 1580 1
95 Corliss Williamson 1574 1
96 Rick Robey 1569 1
97 Bill Walton 1546 1
98 Spencer Haywood 1544 1
99 Sean Elliott 1509 1
100 Eddie House 1480 1
101 Andrew Bynum 1446 1
102 Jason Caffey 1405 1
103 Scott Wedman 1402 1
104 Tony Allen 1373 1
105 Scott Williams 1369 1
106 Fabricio Oberto 1365 1
107 Pete Chilcutt 1347 1
108 Adrian Dantley 1341 1
109 Francisco Elson 1332 1
110 Alonzo Mourning 1302 1
111 Clyde Drexler 1300 1
112 Sasha Vujacic 1293 1
113 Larry Spriggs 1292 1
114 Stacey King 1268 1
115 Franklin Edwards 1266 1
116 Bob McAdoo 1254 1
117 Quinn Buckner 1249 1
118 Devin Brown 1238 1
119 Scott Brooks 1225 1
120 Isaiah Rider 1206 1

Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Alphabetic Listings of Players who won the Ring Between 1980 and 2009

Already reported out is the players of all Championship teams 1980-1994 and 1995-2009.

Now we need to compile those lists into number of rings won ranking lists. We are doing that in two ways and in two reports.

What's in this Report is introduced shortly. What is in the other Report, the next and final report in this series, are these 4 rankings:

--Players ranked according to number of rings won among all Quest winners who played at least 300 minutes in the year(s) they won, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to number of rings won among all Quest winners who played
at least 1200 minutes in one year(s) they won, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to the total number of minutes they played during all years they won the Quest, among all Quest winners who played at least 300 minutes, for the 30 years 1980-2009.
--Players ranked according to the total number of minutes they played during all years they won the Quest, among all Quest winners who played at least 1200 minutes, for the 30 years 1980-2009.

In summary, the first two are the straight up number of rings won during 1980-2009 by all players who played at least 300 minutes and then 1200 minutes. The other two ranks players according to the total number of minutes they played in years they won the Quest, first for the 300+ minutes players and then for the 1200+ minutes players.
Again, these four rankings are all in a soon to be posted Report.

In this Report we are doing two alphabetical lists of all players who won the Quest for the Ring between 1980 and 2009, with an entry for each time each player won. Each entry consists of (1)The name of the player (2)the player's team (3)the age of the player when he won and (4)the number of minutes he played during the season he won the Quest. See the roster logs referenced and linked to at the top of this Report if you need to know the year(s) the player won.

Minutes played is obviously a pretty good approximation of how good the player was. But rembember, as the Real Player Rating system shows clearly, the players with the most minutes are not always actually the best players.

Obviously, this is the Report to use to look up any player by name. Also, you can quickly tell how many rings each player has won, simply by observing how many times his name appears. The alphabetical sorting is by first name.

========== PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING ==========
1980-2009
Alphabetical by first names
Inclusive List: Among players who won when they played at least 300 mintes
Player / Team / Age / Minutes

A.C. Green LA L 36 1929
A.C. Green LA L 24 2636
A.C. Green LA L 23 2240
Adrian Dantley DETR 32 1341
Alonzo Mourning MIAM 35 1302
Andrew Bynum LA L 21 1446
Andrew Toney PHIL 25 2474
Antoine Walker MIAM 29 2199
Antonio Daniels SN A 23 614
Avery Johnson SN A 33 1672
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 25 2492
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 24 1875
B.J. Armstrong CHIC 23 1731
Ben Wallace DETR 29 3050
Beno Udrih SN A 24 948
Beno Udrih SN A 22 1149
Bill Cartwright CHIC 35 1253
Bill Cartwright CHIC 34 1471
Bill Cartwright CHIC 33 2273
Bill Laimbeer DETR 32 2675
Bill Laimbeer DETR 31 2640
Bill Walton BOST 33 1546
Bill Wennington CHIC 34 467
Bill Wennington CHIC 33 783
Bill Wennington CHIC 32 1065
Billy Thompson LA L 23 762
Bob Hansen CHIC 31 769
Bob McAdoo LA L 33 1254
Bob McAdoo LA L 30 746
Bob Sura DETR 30 707
Bobby Jones PHIL 31 1749
Brent Barry SN A 35 1631
Brent Barry SN A 33 1742
Brian Scalabrine BOST 29 512
Brian Shaw LA L 35 631
Brian Shaw LA L 34 1833
Brian Shaw LA L 33 1249
Bruce Bowen SN A 35 2464
Bruce Bowen SN A 33 2627
Bruce Bowen SN A 31 2566
Byron Scott LA L 26 3048
Byron Scott LA L 25 2729
Byron Scott LA L 23 2305
Carl Herrera HOUS 28 1331
Carl Herrera HOUS 27 1292
Cedric Maxwell BOST 28 2502
Cedric Maxwell BOST 25 2730
Chauncey Billups DETR 27 2758
Chris Ford BOST 32 2723
Chucky Atkins DETR 29 751
Chucky Brown HOUS 26 814
Clemon Johnson PHIL 26 698
Cliff Levingston CHIC 31 1020
Cliff Levingston CHIC 30 1013
Clint Richardson PHIL 26 1755
Clyde Drexler HOUS 32 1300
Corliss Williamson DETR 30 1574
Craig Hodges CHIC 31 555
Craig Hodges CHIC 30 843
Danny Ainge BOST 26 2407
Danny Ainge BOST 24 1154
Danny Ferry SN A 36 601
Darrell Walker CHIC 31 367
Darvin Ham DETR 30 484
David Robinson SN A 37 1676
David Robinson SN A 33 1554
David Thirdkill BOST 25 385
Dennis Hopson CHIC 25 728
Dennis Johnson BOST 31 2732
Dennis Johnson BOST 29 2665
Dennis Rodman CHIC 36 2856
Dennis Rodman CHIC 35 1947
Dennis Rodman CHIC 34 2088
Dennis Rodman DETR 28 2377
Dennis Rodman DETR 27 2208
Derek Anderson MIAM 31 465
Derek Fisher LA L 34 2441
Derek Fisher LA L 27 1974
Derek Fisher LA L 26 709
Derek Fisher LA L 25 1803
Devean George LA L 24 1759
Devean George LA L 23 593
Devean George LA L 22 345
Devin Brown SN A 26 1238
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 24 395
Dickey Simpkins CHIC 23 685
Don Ford LA L 27 580
Dwyane Wade MIAM 24 2892
Earl Cureton PHIL 25 987
Eddie House BOST 29 1480
Eddie Jordan LA L 27 608
Elden Campbell DETR 35 892
Fabricio Oberto SN A 31 1365
Francisco Elson SN A 30 1332
Frank Brickowski LA L 27 404
Franklin Edwards PHIL 23 1266
Gary Payton MIAM 37 2305
Gerald Henderson DETR 34 335
Gerald Henderson BOST 28 2088
Gerald Henderson BOST 25 1608
Glen Davis BOST 22 940
Glen Rice LA L 32 2530
Greg Foster LA L 32 451
Greg Kite BOST 24 464
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 32 2853
Hakeem Olajuwon HOUS 31 3277
Horace Grant LA L 35 2390
Horace Grant CHIC 27 2745
Horace Grant CHIC 26 2859
Horace Grant CHIC 25 2641
Isaiah Rider LA L 29 1206
Isiah Thomas DETR 28 2993
Isiah Thomas DETR 27 2924
Jacque Vaughn SN A 31 760
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 31 761
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 28 2906
Jamaal Wilkes LA L 26 3111
James Edwards DETR 34 2283
James Edwards DETR 33 1254
James Posey BOST 31 1821
James Posey MIAM 29 1914
James Worthy LA L 26 2655
James Worthy LA L 25 2819
James Worthy LA L 23 2696
Jaren Jackson SN A 31 861
Jason Caffey CHIC 24 710
Jason Caffey CHIC 23 1405
Jason Caffey CHIC 22 545
Jason Kapono MIAM 24 665
Jason Williams MIAM 30 1874
Jerome Kersey SN A 36 699
Jerry Sichting BOST 29 1596
Jim Brewer LA L 30 966
Jim Chones LA L 30 2394
Joe Dumars DETR 26 2578
Joe Dumars DETR 25 2408
Joe Kleine CHIC 36 397
John Paxson CHIC 32 1030
John Paxson CHIC 31 1946
John Paxson CHIC 30 1971
John Salley LA L 35 303
John Salley DETR 25 1914
John Salley DETR 24 1458
Jordan Farmar LA L 22 1192
Josh Powell LA L 26 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 29 608
Jud Buechler CHIC 28 703
Jud Buechler CHIC 27 740
Julius Erving PHIL 32 2421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 40 2308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 39 2441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 37 2630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 34 2677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar LA L 32 3143
Kendrick Perkins BOST 23 1912
Kenny Smith HOUS 29 2030
Kenny Smith HOUS 28 2209
Kevin Garnett BOST 31 2328
Kevin McHale BOST 28 2397
Kevin McHale BOST 26 2577
Kevin McHale BOST 23 1645
Kevin Willis SN A 40 840
Kobe Bryant LA L 30 2960
Kobe Bryant LA L 23 3063
Kobe Bryant LA L 22 2783
Kobe Bryant LA L 21 2524
Kurt Rambis LA L 29 845
Kurt Rambis LA L 28 1514
Kurt Rambis LA L 26 1617
Kurt Rambis LA L 23 1131
Lamar Odom LA L 29 2316
Larry Bird BOST 29 3113
Larry Bird BOST 27 3028
Larry Bird BOST 24 3239
Larry Spriggs LA L 25 1292
Leon Powe BOST 24 809
Lindsey Hunter DETR 33 661
Lindsey Hunter LA L 31 1616
Luc Longley CHIC 29 1703
Luc Longley CHIC 28 1472
Luc Longley CHIC 27 1641
Luke Walton LA L 28 1166
M.L. Carr BOST 33 585
M.L. Carr BOST 30 655
Magic Johnson LA L 28 2637
Magic Johnson LA L 27 2904
Magic Johnson LA L 25 2781
Magic Johnson LA L 22 2991
Magic Johnson LA L 20 2795
Malik Rose SN A 30 862
Malik Rose SN A 28 1933
Malik Rose SN A 24 608
Manu Ginobili SN A 29 2060
Manu Ginobili SN A 27 2193
Manu Ginobili SN A 25 1431
Marc Iavaroni PHIL 26 1612
Mario Elie SN A 35 1291
Mario Elie HOUS 31 1896
Mario Elie HOUS 30 1606
Mark Aguirre DETR 30 2005
Mark Aguirre DETR 29 1068
Mark Landsberger LA L 26 1134
Mark Landsberger LA L 24 374
Mark Madsen LA L 26 650
Mark Madsen LA L 25 641
Matt Bonner SN A 26 654
Matt Bullard HOUS 26 725
Maurice Cheeks PHIL 26 2465
Mehmet Okur DETR 24 1580
Michael Cooper LA L 31 1793
Michael Cooper LA L 30 2253
Michael Cooper LA L 28 2189
Michael Cooper LA L 25 2197
Michael Cooper LA L 23 1973
Michael Doleac MIAM 28 371
Michael Finley SN A 33 1823
Michael Jordan CHIC 34 3181
Michael Jordan CHIC 33 3106
Michael Jordan CHIC 32 3090
Michael Jordan CHIC 29 3067
Michael Jordan CHIC 28 3102
Michael Jordan CHIC 27 3034
Micheal Williams DETR 22 358
Mike James DETR 28 512
Mike McGee LA L 25 1170
Mike McGee LA L 22 352
Mike Penberthy LA L 26 851
Mike Smrek LA L 25 421
Milt Wagner LA L 24 380
Mitch Kupchak LA L 30 716
Mitch Kupchak LA L 27 821
Mitch Richmond LA L 36 709
Moses Malone PHIL 27 2922
Mychal Thompson LA L 33 2007
Mychal Thompson LA L 32 680
Nazr Mohammed SN A 27 414
Norm Nixon LA L 26 3024
Norm Nixon LA L 24 3226
Otis Thorpe HOUS 32 1188
Otis Thorpe HOUS 31 2909
Pau Gasol LA L 28 2999
Paul Pierce BOST 30 2874
Pete Chilcutt HOUS 26 1347
Quinn Buckner BOST 29 1249
Rajon Rondo BOST 21 2306
Randy Brown CHIC 29 1147
Randy Brown CHIC 28 1057
Randy Brown CHIC 27 671
Rasheed Wallace DETR 29 673
Rasho Nesterovic SN A 28 1785
Ray Allen BOST 32 2624
Reggie Johnson PHIL 25 549
Richard Hamilton DETR 25 2772
Rick Carlisle BOST 26 760
Rick Fox LA L 32 2289
Rick Fox LA L 31 2291
Rick Fox LA L 30 1473
Rick Mahorn DETR 30 1795
Rick Robey BOST 25 1569
Robert Horry SN A 36 1124
Robert Horry SN A 34 1396
Robert Horry LA L 31 2140
Robert Horry LA L 30 1587
Robert Horry LA L 29 1685
Robert Horry HOUS 24 2074
Robert Horry HOUS 23 2370
Robert Parish CHIC 43 406
Robert Parish BOST 32 2567
Robert Parish BOST 30 2867
Robert Parish BOST 27 2298
Rodney McCray CHIC 31 1019
Ron Harper LA L 37 1139
Ron Harper LA L 36 2042
Ron Harper CHIC 34 2284
Ron Harper CHIC 33 1740
Ron Harper CHIC 32 1886
Russ Schoene PHIL 22 702
Sam Cassell HOUS 25 1882
Sam Cassell HOUS 24 1122
Sam Vincent BOST 22 432
Samaki Walker LA L 25 1655
Sasha Vujacic LA L 24 1293
Scott Brooks HOUS 28 1225
Scott Burrell CHIC 27 1096
Scott Wedman BOST 33 1402
Scott Wedman BOST 31 916
Scott Williams CHIC 24 1369
Scott Williams CHIC 23 690
Scott Williams CHIC 22 337
Scottie Pippen CHIC 32 1652
Scottie Pippen CHIC 31 3095
Scottie Pippen CHIC 30 2825
Scottie Pippen CHIC 27 3123
Scottie Pippen CHIC 26 3164
Scottie Pippen CHIC 25 3014
Sean Elliott SN A 30 1509
Shandon Anderson MIAM 32 638
Shaquille O'Neal MIAM 33 1806
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 29 2422
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 28 2924
Shaquille O'Neal LA L 27 3163
Speedy Claxton SN A 24 471
Spencer Haywood LA L 30 1544
Stacey King CHIC 26 1059
Stacey King CHIC 25 1268
Stacey King CHIC 24 1198
Stanislav Medvedenko LA L 22 729
Stephen Jackson SN A 24 2254
Steve Kerr SN A 37 952
Steve Kerr SN A 33 734
Steve Kerr CHIC 32 1119
Steve Kerr CHIC 31 1861
Steve Kerr CHIC 30 1919
Steve Smith SN A 33 1032
Tayshaun Prince DETR 23 2701
Tim Breaux HOUS 24 340
Tim Duncan SN A 30 2725
Tim Duncan SN A 28 2203
Tim Duncan SN A 26 3181
Tim Duncan SN A 22 1963
Tiny Archibald BOST 32 2820
Toni Kukoc CHIC 29 2235
Toni Kukoc CHIC 28 1610
Toni Kukoc CHIC 27 2103
Tony Allen BOST 26 1373
Tony Massenburg SN A 37 699
Tony Parker SN A 24 2499
Tony Parker SN A 22 2735
Tony Parker SN A 20 2774
Travis Knight LA L 25 410
Trent Tucker CHIC 33 909
Trevor Ariza LA L 23 1998
Tyronn Lue LA L 23 468
Udonis Haslem MIAM 25 2491
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 29 2038
Vernon Maxwell HOUS 28 2571
Vinnie Johnson DETR 33 1972
Vinnie Johnson DETR 32 2073
Vladimir Radmanovic LA L 28 771
Wayne Simien MIAM 22 414
Wes Matthews LA L 28 706
Wes Matthews LA L 27 532
Will Perdue SN A 33 445
Will Perdue CHIC 27 998
Will Perdue CHIC 26 1007
Will Perdue CHIC 25 972


========== PLAYERS WHO WON THE QUEST FOR THE RING ==========
1980-2009
Alphabetical by first names
Strict List: Among players who won when they played at least 1200 mintes
Player / Team / Age / Minutes

A.C. Green 36 LA L 1929
A.C. Green 24 LA L 2636
A.C. Green 23 LA L 2240
Adrian Dantley 32 DETR 1341
Alonzo Mourning 35 MIAM 1302
Andrew Bynum 21 LA L 1446
Andrew Toney 25 PHIL 2474
Antoine Walker 29 MIAM 2199
Avery Johnson 33 SN A 1672
B.J. Armstrong 25 CHIC 2492
B.J. Armstrong 24 CHIC 1875
B.J. Armstrong 23 CHIC 1731
Ben Wallace 29 DETR 3050
Bill Cartwright 35 CHIC 1253
Bill Cartwright 34 CHIC 1471
Bill Cartwright 33 CHIC 2273
Bill Laimbeer 32 DETR 2675
Bill Laimbeer 31 DETR 2640
Bill Walton 33 BOST 1546
Bob McAdoo 33 LA L 1254
Bobby Jones 31 PHIL 1749
Brent Barry 35 SN A 1631
Brent Barry 33 SN A 1742
Brian Shaw 34 LA L 1833
Brian Shaw 33 LA L 1249
Bruce Bowen 35 SN A 2464
Bruce Bowen 33 SN A 2627
Bruce Bowen 31 SN A 2566
Byron Scott 26 LA L 3048
Byron Scott 25 LA L 2729
Byron Scott 23 LA L 2305
Carl Herrera 28 HOUS 1331
Carl Herrera 27 HOUS 1292
Cedric Maxwell 28 BOST 2502
Cedric Maxwell 25 BOST 2730
Chauncey Billups 27 DETR 2758
Chris Ford 32 BOST 2723
Clint Richardson 26 PHIL 1755
Clyde Drexler 32 HOUS 1300
Corliss Williamson 30 DETR 1574
Danny Ainge 26 BOST 2407
David Robinson 37 SN A 1676
David Robinson 33 SN A 1554
Dennis Johnson 31 BOST 2732
Dennis Johnson 29 BOST 2665
Dennis Rodman 36 CHIC 2856
Dennis Rodman 35 CHIC 1947
Dennis Rodman 34 CHIC 2088
Dennis Rodman 28 DETR 2377
Dennis Rodman 27 DETR 2208
Derek Fisher 34 LA L 2441
Derek Fisher 27 LA L 1974
Derek Fisher 25 LA L 1803
Devean George 24 LA L 1759
Devin Brown 26 SN A 1238
Dwyane Wade 24 MIAM 2892
Eddie House 29 BOST 1480
Fabricio Oberto 31 SN A 1365
Francisco Elson 30 SN A 1332
Franklin Edwards 23 PHIL 1266
Gary Payton 37 MIAM 2305
Gerald Henderson 28 BOST 2088
Gerald Henderson 25 BOST 1608
Glen Rice 32 LA L 2530
Hakeem Olajuwon 32 HOUS 2853
Hakeem Olajuwon 31 HOUS 3277
Horace Grant 35 LA L 2390
Horace Grant 27 CHIC 2745
Horace Grant 26 CHIC 2859
Horace Grant 25 CHIC 2641
Isaiah Rider 29 LA L 1206
Isiah Thomas 28 DETR 2993
Isiah Thomas 27 DETR 2924
Jamaal Wilkes 28 LA L 2906
Jamaal Wilkes 26 LA L 3111
James Edwards 34 DETR 2283
James Edwards 33 DETR 1254
James Posey 31 BOST 1821
James Posey 29 MIAM 1914
James Worthy 26 LA L 2655
James Worthy 25 LA L 2819
James Worthy 23 LA L 2696
Jason Caffey 23 CHIC 1405
Jason Williams 30 MIAM 1874
Jerry Sichting 29 BOST 1596
Jim Chones 30 LA L 2394
Joe Dumars 26 DETR 2578
Joe Dumars 25 DETR 2408
John Paxson 31 CHIC 1946
John Paxson 30 CHIC 1971
John Salley 25 DETR 1914
John Salley 24 DETR 1458
Julius Erving 32 PHIL 2421
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 40 LA L 2308
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 39 LA L 2441
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 37 LA L 2630
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 34 LA L 2677
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 32 LA L 3143
Kendrick Perkins 23 BOST 1912
Kenny Smith 29 HOUS 2030
Kenny Smith 28 HOUS 2209
Kevin Garnett 31 BOST 2328
Kevin McHale 28 BOST 2397
Kevin McHale 26 BOST 2577
Kevin McHale 23 BOST 1645
Kobe Bryant 30 LA L 2960
Kobe Bryant 23 LA L 3063
Kobe Bryant 22 LA L 2783
Kobe Bryant 21 LA L 2524
Kurt Rambis 28 LA L 1514
Kurt Rambis 26 LA L 1617
Lamar Odom 29 LA L 2316
Larry Bird 29 BOST 3113
Larry Bird 27 BOST 3028
Larry Bird 24 BOST 3239
Larry Spriggs 25 LA L 1292
Lindsey Hunter 31 LA L 1616
Luc Longley 29 CHIC 1703
Luc Longley 28 CHIC 1472
Luc Longley 27 CHIC 1641
Magic Johnson 28 LA L 2637
Magic Johnson 27 LA L 2904
Magic Johnson 25 LA L 2781
Magic Johnson 22 LA L 2991
Magic Johnson 20 LA L 2795
Malik Rose 28 SN A 1933
Manu Ginobili 29 SN A 2060
Manu Ginobili 27 SN A 2193
Manu Ginobili 25 SN A 1431
Marc Iavaroni 26 PHIL 1612
Mario Elie 35 SN A 1291
Mario Elie 31 HOUS 1896
Mario Elie 30 HOUS 1606
Mark Aguirre 30 DETR 2005
Maurice Cheeks 26 PHIL 2465
Mehmet Okur 24 DETR 1580
Michael Cooper 31 LA L 1793
Michael Cooper 30 LA L 2253
Michael Cooper 28 LA L 2189
Michael Cooper 25 LA L 2197
Michael Cooper 23 LA L 1973
Michael Finley 33 SN A 1823
Michael Jordan 34 CHIC 3181
Michael Jordan 33 CHIC 3106
Michael Jordan 32 CHIC 3090
Michael Jordan 29 CHIC 3067
Michael Jordan 28 CHIC 3102
Michael Jordan 27 CHIC 3034
Moses Malone 27 PHIL 2922
Mychal Thompson 33 LA L 2007
Norm Nixon 26 LA L 3024
Norm Nixon 24 LA L 3226
Otis Thorpe 31 HOUS 2909
Pau Gasol 28 LA L 2999
Paul Pierce 30 BOST 2874
Pete Chilcutt 26 HOUS 1347
Quinn Buckner 29 BOST 1249
Rajon Rondo 21 BOST 2306
Rasho Nesterovic 28 SN A 1785
Ray Allen 32 BOST 2624
Richard Hamilton 25 DETR 2772
Rick Fox 32 LA L 2289
Rick Fox 31 LA L 2291
Rick Fox 30 LA L 1473
Rick Mahorn 30 DETR 1795
Rick Robey 25 BOST 1569
Robert Horry 34 SN A 1396
Robert Horry 31 LA L 2140
Robert Horry 30 LA L 1587
Robert Horry 29 LA L 1685
Robert Horry 24 HOUS 2074
Robert Horry 23 HOUS 2370
Robert Parish 32 BOST 2567
Robert Parish 30 BOST 2867
Robert Parish 27 BOST 2298
Ron Harper 36 LA L 2042
Ron Harper 34 CHIC 2284
Ron Harper 33 CHIC 1740
Ron Harper 32 CHIC 1886
Sam Cassell 25 HOUS 1882
Samaki Walker 25 LA L 1655
Sasha Vujacic 24 LA L 1293
Scott Brooks 28 HOUS 1225
Scott Wedman 33 BOST 1402
Scott Williams 24 CHIC 1369
Scottie Pippen 32 CHIC 1652
Scottie Pippen 31 CHIC 3095
Scottie Pippen 30 CHIC 2825
Scottie Pippen 27 CHIC 3123
Scottie Pippen 26 CHIC 3164
Scottie Pippen 25 CHIC 3014
Sean Elliott 30 SN A 1509
Shaquille O'Neal 33 MIAM 1806
Shaquille O'Neal 29 LA L 2422
Shaquille O'Neal 28 LA L 2924
Shaquille O'Neal 27 LA L 3163
Spencer Haywood 30 LA L 1544
Stacey King 25 CHIC 1268
Stephen Jackson 24 SN A 2254
Steve Kerr 31 CHIC 1861
Steve Kerr 30 CHIC 1919
Tayshaun Prince 23 DETR 2701
Tim Duncan 30 SN A 2725
Tim Duncan 28 SN A 2203
Tim Duncan 26 SN A 3181
Tim Duncan 22 SN A 1963
Tiny Archibald 32 BOST 2820
Toni Kukoc 29 CHIC 2235
Toni Kukoc 28 CHIC 1610
Toni Kukoc 27 CHIC 2103
Tony Allen 26 BOST 1373
Tony Parker 24 SN A 2499
Tony Parker 22 SN A 2735
Tony Parker 20 SN A 2774
Trevor Ariza 23 LA L 1998
Udonis Haslem 25 MIAM 2491
Vernon Maxwell 29 HOUS 2038
Vernon Maxwell 28 HOUS 2571
Vinnie Johnson 33 DETR 1972
Vinnie Johnson 32 DETR 2073

Players who won the Quest for the Ring 1980-1994

This is the second of two Reports listing all of the Quest winners during the 30 years that the NBA has had the 3-point shot. (No George Karl, the three is not just a passing fad, so get with the program, laugh out loud.) The first report has a complete introduction of this important presentation, as well as the Quest winners from 1995 to 2009. This report has only the 1980-1994 Quest winners, so for the introduction, you have to go to the other one.

The next report will show every Quest winner during the 30 years ranked by number of rings won.

(In both Reports) there are two listings: the complete list of all Champions who played at least 300 minutes, and a separate list showing only the starters and heavy minutes non-starters (1200 minutes or more).

The format in each list is player/age/minutes played. The sorting order is minutes played. Remember that as the Real Player Rating system makes clear, in some cases players who have played fewer minutes may have been better players than those who played more.

========== WINNERS OF THE QUEST FOR THE RING ==========
1980-1994
By Year and By Team
Inclusive Format: all players who played at least 300 minutes are included

1994 HOUSTON ROCKETS
Player Age Minutes
Hakeem Olajuwon 31 3277
Otis Thorpe 31 2909
Vernon Maxwell 28 2571
Robert Horry 23 2370
Kenny Smith 28 2209
Mario Elie 30 1606
Carl Herrera 27 1292
Scott Brooks 28 1225
Sam Cassell 24 1122
Matt Bullard 26 725

1993 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Scottie Pippen 27 3123
Michael Jordan 29 3067
Horace Grant 27 2745
B.J. Armstrong 25 2492
Scott Williams 24 1369
Bill Cartwright 35 1253
Stacey King 26 1059
John Paxson 32 1030
Rodney McCray 31 1019
Will Perdue 27 998
Trent Tucker 33 909
Darrell Walker 31 367

1992 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Scottie Pippen 26 3164
Michael Jordan 28 3102
Horace Grant 26 2859
John Paxson 31 1946
B.J. Armstrong 24 1875
Bill Cartwright 34 1471
Stacey King 25 1268
Cliff Levingston 31 1020
Will Perdue 26 1007
Bob Hansen 31 769
Scott Williams 23 690
Craig Hodges 31 555

1991 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Michael Jordan 27 3034
Scottie Pippen 25 3014
Horace Grant 25 2641
Bill Cartwright 33 2273
John Paxson 30 1971
B.J. Armstrong 23 1731
Stacey King 24 1198
Cliff Levingston 30 1013
Will Perdue 25 972
Craig Hodges 30 843
Dennis Hopson 25 728
Scott Williams 22 337

1990 DETROIT PISTONS
Player Age Minutes
Isiah Thomas 28 2993
Bill Laimbeer 32 2675
Joe Dumars 26 2578
Dennis Rodman 28 2377
James Edwards 34 2283
Mark Aguirre 30 2005
Vinnie Johnson 33 1972
John Salley 25 1914
Gerald Henderson 34 335

1989 DETROIT PISTONS
Player Age Minutes
Isiah Thomas 27 2924
Bill Laimbeer 31 2640
Joe Dumars 25 2408
Dennis Rodman 27 2208
Vinnie Johnson 32 2073
Rick Mahorn 30 1795
John Salley 24 1458
Adrian Dantley 32 1341
James Edwards 33 1254
Mark Aguirre 29 1068
Micheal Williams 22 358

1988 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Byron Scott 26 3048
James Worthy 26 2655
Magic Johnson 28 2637
A.C. Green 24 2636
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 40 2308
Mychal Thompson 33 2007
Michael Cooper 31 1793
Kurt Rambis 29 845
Wes Matthews 28 706
Mike Smrek 25 421
Milt Wagner 24 380

1987 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Magic Johnson 27 2904
James Worthy 25 2819
Byron Scott 25 2729
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 39 2441
Michael Cooper 30 2253
A.C. Green 23 2240
Kurt Rambis 28 1514
Billy Thompson 23 762
Mychal Thompson 32 680
Wes Matthews 27 532
Frank Brickowski 27 404

1986 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 29 3113
Dennis Johnson 31 2732
Robert Parish 32 2567
Danny Ainge 26 2407
Kevin McHale 28 2397
Jerry Sichting 29 1596
Bill Walton 33 1546
Scott Wedman 33 1402
Rick Carlisle 26 760
Greg Kite 24 464
Sam Vincent 22 432
David Thirdkill 25 385

1985 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Magic Johnson 25 2781
James Worthy 23 2696
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 37 2630
Byron Scott 23 2305
Michael Cooper 28 2189
Kurt Rambis 26 1617
Larry Spriggs 25 1292
Bob McAdoo 33 1254
Mike McGee 25 1170
Jamaal Wilkes 31 761
Mitch Kupchak 30 716

1984 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 27 3028
Robert Parish 30 2867
Dennis Johnson 29 2665
Kevin McHale 26 2577
Cedric Maxwell 28 2502
Gerald Henderson 28 2088
Quinn Buckner 29 1249
Danny Ainge 24 1154
Scott Wedman 31 916
M.L. Carr 33 585

1983 PHILADELPHIA 76'ERS
Player Age Minutes
Moses Malone 27 2922
Andrew Toney 25 2474
Maurice Cheeks 26 2465
Julius Erving 32 2421
Clint Richardson 26 1755
Bobby Jones 31 1749
Marc Iavaroni 26 1612
Franklin Edwards 23 1266
Earl Cureton 25 987
Russ Schoene 22 702
Clemon Johnson 26 698
Reggie Johnson 25 549

1982 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Norm Nixon 26 3024
Magic Johnson 22 2991
Jamaal Wilkes 28 2906
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 34 2677
Michael Cooper 25 2197
Mark Landsberger 26 1134
Kurt Rambis 23 1131
Jim Brewer 30 966
Mitch Kupchak 27 821
Bob McAdoo 30 746
Eddie Jordan 27 608
Mike McGee 22 352

1981 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 24 3239
Tiny Archibald 32 2820
Cedric Maxwell 25 2730
Chris Ford 32 2723
Robert Parish 27 2298
Kevin McHale 23 1645
Gerald Henderson 25 1608
Rick Robey 25 1569
M.L. Carr 30 655

1980 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Norm Nixon 24 3226
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 32 3143
Jamaal Wilkes 26 3111
Magic Johnson 20 2795
Jim Chones 30 2394
Michael Cooper 23 1973
Spencer Haywood 30 1544
Don Ford 27 580
Mark Landsberger 24 374

======== QUEST CHAMPIONS WHO WERE STARTERS AND VERY IMPORTANT NON-STARTERS ========
1980-1994
By Year and By Team
Strict Format: All players who played at least 1200 minutes are included

1994 HOUSTON ROCKETS
Player Age Minutes
Hakeem Olajuwon 31 3277
Otis Thorpe 31 2909
Vernon Maxwell 28 2571
Robert Horry 23 2370
Kenny Smith 28 2209
Mario Elie 30 1606
Carl Herrera 27 1292
Scott Brooks 28 1225

1993 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Scottie Pippen 27 3123
Michael Jordan 29 3067
Horace Grant 27 2745
B.J. Armstrong 25 2492
Scott Williams 24 1369
Bill Cartwright 35 1253

1992 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Scottie Pippen 26 3164
Michael Jordan 28 3102
Horace Grant 26 2859
John Paxson 31 1946
B.J. Armstrong 24 1875
Bill Cartwright 34 1471
Stacey King 25 1268

1991 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age Minutes
Michael Jordan 27 3034
Scottie Pippen 25 3014
Horace Grant 25 2641
Bill Cartwright 33 2273
John Paxson 30 1971
B.J. Armstrong 23 1731

1990 DETROIT PISTONS
Player Age Minutes
Isiah Thomas 28 2993
Bill Laimbeer 32 2675
Joe Dumars 26 2578
Dennis Rodman 28 2377
James Edwards 34 2283
Mark Aguirre 30 2005
Vinnie Johnson 33 1972
John Salley 25 1914

1989 DETROIT PISTONS
Player Age Minutes
Isiah Thomas 27 2924
Bill Laimbeer 31 2640
Joe Dumars 25 2408
Dennis Rodman 27 2208
Vinnie Johnson 32 2073
Rick Mahorn 30 1795
John Salley 24 1458
Adrian Dantley 32 1341
James Edwards 33 1254

1988 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Byron Scott 26 3048
James Worthy 26 2655
Magic Johnson 28 2637
A.C. Green 24 2636
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 40 2308
Mychal Thompson 33 2007
Michael Cooper 31 1793

1987 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Magic Johnson 27 2904
James Worthy 25 2819
Byron Scott 25 2729
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 39 2441
Michael Cooper 30 2253
A.C. Green 23 2240
Kurt Rambis 28 1514

1986 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 29 3113
Dennis Johnson 31 2732
Robert Parish 32 2567
Danny Ainge 26 2407
Kevin McHale 28 2397
Jerry Sichting 29 1596
Bill Walton 33 1546
Scott Wedman 33 1402

1985 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Magic Johnson 25 2781
James Worthy 23 2696
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 37 2630
Byron Scott 23 2305
Michael Cooper 28 2189
Kurt Rambis 26 1617
Larry Spriggs 25 1292
Bob McAdoo 33 1254

1984 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 27 3028
Robert Parish 30 2867
Dennis Johnson 29 2665
Kevin McHale 26 2577
Cedric Maxwell 28 2502
Gerald Henderson 28 2088
Quinn Buckner 29 1249

1983 PHILADELPHIA 76'ERS
Player Age Minutes
Moses Malone 27 2922
Andrew Toney 25 2474
Maurice Cheeks 26 2465
Julius Erving 32 2421
Clint Richardson 26 1755
Bobby Jones 31 1749
Marc Iavaroni 26 1612
Franklin Edwards 23 1266

1982 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Norm Nixon 26 3024
Magic Johnson 22 2991
Jamaal Wilkes 28 2906
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 34 2677
Michael Cooper 25 2197

1981 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Larry Bird 24 3239
Tiny Archibald 32 2820
Cedric Maxwell 25 2730
Chris Ford 32 2723
Robert Parish 27 2298
Kevin McHale 23 1645
Gerald Henderson 25 1608
Rick Robey 25 1569

1980 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Norm Nixon 24 3226
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 32 3143
Jamaal Wilkes 26 3111
Magic Johnson 20 2795
Jim Chones 30 2394
Michael Cooper 23 1973
Spencer Haywood 30 1544

Monday, August 3, 2009

Players who won the Quest for the Ring 1995-2009

Shame on you, basketball internet people. I have at least three dozen current basketball things I could be doing other than the following history Report, but you people don't really respect NBA Champions the way you think you do. Because no where on the internet (at least no where that has any traffic to speak of) can you see who the NBA Champions actually are at a glance, in one place! Even on monster statistical sites there is no page to go to listing NBA player champions year by year, or the number of rings won by player. Sure, you find a short list of players who have won three or more rings drifting around, but forget about a complete list. Until now.

So it was left for Quest to rise to the call of duty to do this crucial historical reporting. ("Well if you think its so all-fired important, than do it yourself." "Alright, damn it, I will", laugh out loud.)

It may be crucial history, but its also crucial for the present, because players who have already won rings are, all other things equal, more valuable than players who have never won a ring. You might as well add at least .050 to each such player's Real Player Rating. So a .700 becomes at least a .750, an .870 becomes at least a .920, and so forth.

Quest for the Ring presents the following complete list of NBA Champions by year and by team. There are actually two listings.

The first one lists by year and by team all players who played for at least 300 minutes, which is only about 1/10 of the minutes played by the top stars. Anyone who played less than 300 minutes really didn't win a Championship if you know what I am saying. The other listing lists all players who played for at least 1200 minutes, which is a little bit less than a quarter per game. This many minutes is the dividing line between starters and very important off the bench players on the one hand and much less important players on the other hand. So this second listing is strictly limited to those players who were the most significant in winning the Quest.

There have been 30 Quest winners in the "modern era," the era since the 3-point shot went into effect in 1979-80. Three decades have come and gone since the NBA finally allowed 3 points to be counted for long range shots. (Where does the time go?) We are posting the NBA Champions in two postings of 15 years each. After the 30 years have been posted, we will give you the total number of modern era rings won by player in a separate Report.

This Report shows you 1995-2009 Quest winners, and the other one to follow shows you the 1980-1994 winners of the Quest. Remember, for both 15-year periods there are two listings: the complete list of all Champions who played at least 300 minutes, and a separate list showing only the starters and heavy minutes non-starters (1200 minutes or more).

The format in each list is player/age/minutes played. The sorting order is minutes played. Remember that as the Real Player Rating system makes clear, in some cases players who have played fewer minutes may have been better players than those who played more.

========== WINNERS OF THE QUEST FOR THE RING ==========
1995-2009
By Year and By Team
Inclusive Format: all players who played at least 300 minutes are included

2009 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Pau Gasol 28 2999
Kobe Bryant 30 2960
Derek Fisher 34 2441
Lamar Odom 29 2316
Trevor Ariza 23 1998
Andrew Bynum 21 1446
Sasha Vujacic 24 1293
Jordan Farmar 22 1192
Luke Walton 28 1166
Vladimir Radmanovic 28 771
Josh Powell 26 703

2008 BOSTON CELTICS
Player Age Minutes
Paul Pierce 30 2874
Ray Allen 32 2624
Kevin Garnett 31 2328
Rajon Rondo 21 2306
Kendrick Perkins 23 1912
James Posey 31 1821
Eddie House 29 1480
Tony Allen 26 1373
Glen Davis 22 940
Leon Powe 24 809
Brian Scalabrine 29 512

2007 SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Player Age Minutes
Tim Duncan 30 2725
Tony Parker 24 2499
Bruce Bowen 35 2464
Manu Ginobili 29 2060
Michael Finley 33 1823
Brent Barry 35 1631
Fabricio Oberto 31 1365
Francisco Elson 30 1332
Robert Horry 36 1124
Beno Udrih 24 948
Jacque Vaughn 31 760
Matt Bonner 26 654

2006 MIAMI HEAT
Player Age Minutes
Dwyane Wade 24 2892
Udonis Haslem 25 2491
Gary Payton 37 2305
Antoine Walker 29 2199
James Posey 29 1914
Jason Williams 30 1874
Shaquille O'Neal 33 1806
Alonzo Mourning 35 1302
Jason Kapono 24 665
Shandon Anderson 32 638
Derek Anderson 31 465
Wayne Simien 22 414
Michael Doleac 28 371

2005 SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Player Age Minutes
Tony Parker 22 2735
Bruce Bowen 33 2627
Tim Duncan 28 2203
Manu Ginobili 27 2193
Rasho Nesterovic 28 1785
Brent Barry 33 1742
Robert Horry 34 1396
Devin Brown 26 1238
Beno Udrih 22 1149
Malik Rose 30 862
Tony Massenburg 37 699
Nazr Mohammed 27 414

2004 DETROIT PISTONS
Player Age Minutes
Ben Wallace 29 3050
Richard Hamilton 25 2772
Chauncey Billups 27 2758
Tayshaun Prince 23 2701
Mehmet Okur 24 1580
Corliss Williamson 30 1574
Elden Campbell 35 892
Chucky Atkins 29 751
Bob Sura 30 707
Rasheed Wallace 29 673
Lindsey Hunter 33 661
Mike James 28 512
Darvin Ham 30 484

2003 SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Player Age MP
Tim Duncan 26 3181
Tony Parker 20 2774
Bruce Bowen 31 2566
Stephen Jackson 24 2254
Malik Rose 28 1933
David Robinson 37 1676
Manu Ginobili 25 1431
Steve Smith 33 1032
Steve Kerr 37 952
Kevin Willis 40 840
Danny Ferry 36 601
Speedy Claxton 24 471

2002 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age Minutes
Kobe Bryant 23 3063
Shaquille O'Neal 29 2422
Rick Fox 32 2289
Robert Horry 31 2140
Derek Fisher 27 1974
Devean George 24 1759
Samaki Walker 25 1655
Lindsey Hunter 31 1616
Stanislav Medvedenko 22 729
Mitch Richmond 36 709
Mark Madsen 26 650
Brian Shaw 35 631

2001 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age MP
Shaquille O'Neal 28 2924
Kobe Bryant 22 2783
Horace Grant 35 2390
Rick Fox 31 2291
Brian Shaw 34 1833
Robert Horry 30 1587
Isaiah Rider 29 1206
Ron Harper 37 1139
Mike Penberthy 26 851
Derek Fisher 26 709
Mark Madsen 25 641
Devean George 23 593
Tyronn Lue 23 468
Greg Foster 32 451

2000 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age MP
Shaquille O'Neal 27 3163
Glen Rice 32 2530
Kobe Bryant 21 2524
Ron Harper 36 2042
A.C. Green 36 1929
Derek Fisher 25 1803
Robert Horry 29 1685
Rick Fox 30 1473
Brian Shaw 33 1249
Travis Knight 25 410
Devean George 22 345
John Salley 35 303

1999 SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Player Age MP
Tim Duncan 22 1963
Avery Johnson 33 1672
David Robinson 33 1554
Sean Elliott 30 1509
Mario Elie 35 1291
Jaren Jackson 31 861
Steve Kerr 33 734
Jerome Kersey 36 699
Antonio Daniels 23 614
Malik Rose 24 608
Will Perdue 33 445

1998 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age MP
Michael Jordan 34 3181
Dennis Rodman 36 2856
Ron Harper 34 2284
Toni Kukoc 29 2235
Luc Longley 29 1703
Scottie Pippen 32 1652
Randy Brown 29 1147
Steve Kerr 32 1119
Scott Burrell 27 1096
Jason Caffey 24 710
Jud Buechler 29 608
Bill Wennington 34 467
Joe Kleine 36 397

1997 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age MP
Michael Jordan 33 3106
Scottie Pippen 31 3095
Dennis Rodman 35 1947
Steve Kerr 31 1861
Ron Harper 33 1740
Toni Kukoc 28 1610
Luc Longley 28 1472
Jason Caffey 23 1405
Randy Brown 28 1057
Bill Wennington 33 783
Jud Buechler 28 703
Robert Parish 43 406
Dickey Simpkins 24 395

1996 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age MP
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Scottie Pippen 30 2825
Toni Kukoc 27 2103
Dennis Rodman 34 2088
Steve Kerr 30 1919
Ron Harper 32 1886
Luc Longley 27 1641
Bill Wennington 32 1065
Jud Buechler 27 740
Dickey Simpkins 23 685
Randy Brown 27 671
Jason Caffey 22 545

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Player Age MP
Hakeem Olajuwon 32 2853
Robert Horry 24 2074
Vernon Maxwell 29 2038
Kenny Smith 29 2030
Mario Elie 31 1896
Sam Cassell 25 1882
Pete Chilcutt 26 1347
Carl Herrera 28 1331
Clyde Drexler 32 1300
Otis Thorpe 32 1188
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Tim Breaux 24 340

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Eddie House 29 1480
Tony Allen 26 1373

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Tony Parker 24 2499
Bruce Bowen 35 2464
Manu Ginobili 29 2060
Michael Finley 33 1823
Brent Barry 35 1631
Fabricio Oberto 31 1365
Francisco Elson 30 1332

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Player Age Minutes
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Udonis Haslem 25 2491
Gary Payton 37 2305
Antoine Walker 29 2199
James Posey 29 1914
Jason Williams 30 1874
Shaquille O'Neal 33 1806
Alonzo Mourning 35 1302

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Player Age Minutes
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Bruce Bowen 33 2627
Tim Duncan 28 2203
Manu Ginobili 27 2193
Rasho Nesterovic 28 1785
Brent Barry 33 1742
Robert Horry 34 1396
Devin Brown 26 1238

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Richard Hamilton 25 2772
Chauncey Billups 27 2758
Tayshaun Prince 23 2701
Mehmet Okur 24 1580
Corliss Williamson 30 1574

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Player Age MP
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Tony Parker 20 2774
Bruce Bowen 31 2566
Stephen Jackson 24 2254
Malik Rose 28 1933
David Robinson 37 1676
Manu Ginobili 25 1431

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Kobe Bryant 23 3063
Shaquille O'Neal 29 2422
Rick Fox 32 2289
Robert Horry 31 2140
Derek Fisher 27 1974
Devean George 24 1759
Samaki Walker 25 1655
Lindsey Hunter 31 1616

2001 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age MP
Shaquille O'Neal 28 2924
Kobe Bryant 22 2783
Horace Grant 35 2390
Rick Fox 31 2291
Brian Shaw 34 1833
Robert Horry 30 1587
Isaiah Rider 29 1206

2000 LOS ANGELES LAKERS
Player Age MP
Shaquille O'Neal 27 3163
Glen Rice 32 2530
Kobe Bryant 21 2524
Ron Harper 36 2042
A.C. Green 36 1929
Derek Fisher 25 1803
Robert Horry 29 1685
Rick Fox 30 1473
Brian Shaw 33 1249

1999 SAN ANTONIO SPURS
Player Age MP
Tim Duncan 22 1963
Avery Johnson 33 1672
David Robinson 33 1554
Sean Elliott 30 1509
Mario Elie 35 1291

1998 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age MP
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Dennis Rodman 36 2856
Ron Harper 34 2284
Toni Kukoc 29 2235
Luc Longley 29 1703
Scottie Pippen 32 1652

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Player Age MP
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Scottie Pippen 31 3095
Dennis Rodman 35 1947
Steve Kerr 31 1861
Ron Harper 33 1740
Toni Kukoc 28 1610
Luc Longley 28 1472
Jason Caffey 23 1405

1996 CHICAGO BULLS
Player Age MP
Michael Jordan 32 3090
Scottie Pippen 30 2825
Toni Kukoc 27 2103
Dennis Rodman 34 2088
Steve Kerr 30 1919
Ron Harper 32 1886
Luc Longley 27 1641

1995 HOUSTON ROCKETS
Player Age MP
Hakeem Olajuwon 32 2853
Robert Horry 24 2074
Vernon Maxwell 29 2038
Kenny Smith 29 2030
Mario Elie 31 1896
Sam Cassell 25 1882
Pete Chilcutt 26 1347
Carl Herrera 28 1331
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Sunday, August 2, 2009

The Allen Iverson Situation as of August 2, 2009

Anyone who has ever had doubts about the legitimacy of basketball, due for example to perceived inconsistent foul calling from game to game, puts some of that aside when a player like Allen Iverson comes along. Iverson has always, just as he claims, "Played every game as if it’s his last". Iverson goes out there and fights for every game regardless of whether the referees are doing so.

So as a perfectionist you can say that basketball is not perfect or even close to perfect due to inconsistent foul calling, but as a human you have to like and respect basketball due to players such as Allen Iverson.

Now here we are 13 years after Iverson came into the NBA and just a few short years before he is inducted into the NBA Hall of Fame yet the "what have you done for me lately" crowd has joined the Iverson haters crowd in trying to ransack Iverson's rep.

This is really a dumb thing to do, although I guess you can get away with it at the moment because you never know, Iverson might commit a horrible crime and never be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Or the world might end before he can be in the Hall of Fame.

Seriously though, Quest has proven that Iverson's main problem is that he has been playing the wrong position for most of his 13 NBA seasons. To oversimplify and make a long story short, Iverson's tendencies to take too many shots was made worse when Larry Brown switched him from 1-Guard (Point Guard) to 2-Guard about 11 years ago. Ever since then, fools have been, either literally or more commonly in effect, criticizing Iverson for not being a good Point Guard when he has not been assigned the position.

Here is a post I made on an Iverson-hating forum back in March.

(Note, although in the fall of 2008 I promised I wouldn't do it any more, this past spring I was again guilty of posting on forums without posting here at the same time. During August, I will be digging that material up and posting it here. I have reissued my pledge not to do that anymore and this time, the rules have real teeth.)

On Iverson at the Iverson-hating forum, March 2009:

Over and over again at this forum there is the logical inconsistency of everyone blaming losses of Nuggets games last year and Pistons games this year on Iverson not being a good point guard (PG) yet Iverson has not been assigned the position for most of his NBA career. Believe it or not, on the full scale Pistons forum, the Pistons' unexpected losses this year are mostly not blamed on Iverson, because on that forum, it is understood that Stuckey is the designated point guard backed up by Will Bynum and Arron Afflalo. Whereas Iverson is a 2-guard, along with Rip.

It's basically just as goofy to blame Iverson for any Pistons PG problems as it would be to blame Rip Hamilton. I know for a fact that few here support the idea of Iverson being designated the PG, so for anyone who does not support AI to be designated PG to blame him for not being a good PG when he is not designated that is, to repeat, goofy.

During February, the Pistons were 3-9. If you visit this topic, you can see that one of the big and probably the biggest reason for that was that Stuckey fell off a cliff and ended up on the border between poor and very poor. Stuckey was the PG problem for the Pistons during the big losing streak, Iverson had almost nothing to do with it, unless you want to argue that Iverson should be the PG and was crowding out Stuckey. In that case, it would be the fault of Iverson coaches, not the fault of Iverson himself.

An experienced coach would have played Will Bynum more and Stuckey less during Stuckey's huge slump, but that did not happen, which cost the Pistons at least a couple of February wins.

During February, Iverson was leading the Pistons and was a little distance into the star range.

So, laugh out loud how Iverson gets blamed for everything on this board and yet, how much do you want to bet that few if any Iverson haters will subscribe to the theory that the underlying problem is that Iverson has been playing the wrong position for many years.

Fast forward to now, and we have Oly Sander, one of only three pro basketball writers I have discovered so far (out of dozens) who I think are good enough to warrant continually checking out. The other day Sander came up with five possible reasons why free agent Iverson has not been picked up quickly by another team, in other words, as he says, "Why Iverson is not the Answer".

How cute by the way, I wish I could think of cute expressions like that sometimes. So let's check out his five theories and see if there is anything to them.

1.Iverson is no longer a star. Last season’s debacle in Detroit proved he’s more a blending player; an off-the bench scorer or complimentary piece. Problem is Iverson doesn’t share this sentiment and wants first option minutes, touches, and shots.


No, this is wrong. Iverson is still a star. He would make a good starter for at least 20 teams. It is correct to say though that he apparently is not a superstar anymore, which would be no surprise if he has been playing the wrong position for the better part of 13 years.

With regard to the starting thing, on the one hand, it’s true that Iverson wants to start and will play for the Grizzlies or Clippers to get to do so. How many Hall of Fame players are happy to come off the bench and play 10 or 15 minutes during their last few years, and how many would rather just retire and save themselves that? Either choice is correct; if Iverson can't start anywhere and he can't accept that, then he should retire, and there would be nothing wrong with that decision if that's how it played out.

Ok, #1 is wrong. Let's go to #2:

2. Money matters. Iverson wants decent dollars because he equates his contract with respect. For instance, he believes taking the veteran’s minimum means he’s a journeyman. This is incorrect. There’s nothing wrong with taking less for the right situation, especially when you’ve had two’ max’ contracts.


Not much to say here because there isn't much here that could explain the Iverson mess. Iverson is a millionaire; he doesn't need any more money. He quit the 2009 Pistons when they became the most depressing team in the NBA thanks to GM Joe Dumars, fired Coach Michael Curry, the gross inconsistency of PG Rodney Stuckey, and the decisions of Rasheed Wallace and apparently Tayshaun Prince to pack it in rather than to continue to compete all out.

So #2 is much more wrong than right. Let's proceed to #3:

3. Unfortunately, playing time and money are scarce for this year’s free agent crop. Coaches don’t have to guarantee minutes or roles and GMs don’t have to back-up the brinks trucks or give out extended terms. Iverson’s demands are unrealistic in the current market.


Um, playing time is not affected by a recession or a depression. Thank goodness the NBA doesn't reduce games to 40 minutes for the recession, they are already too short already, laugh out loud.

Money is not scarce either. The salary cap, which is close to 60 million dollars per team, has been reduced by a grand total of about one million dollars, which hardly means money is scarce. Why should Iverson be the one player who takes a huge cut in pay just because of the recession/depression caused by, oh, I better not get into that. This is another dream of the Iverson haters, that Iverson play for the pay of the average basketball player.

I don't know exactly what Iverson's demands are, but if he would rather get something in between a minimum and a maximum contract and start for a team like the Grizzlies rather than get a minimum veteran contract and come off the bench for a much better team, that is his choice. I'd say in fact that the Grizzlies thing would be the better choice, since Iverson's ability to help win a Championship has been impaired by his playing the wrong position for many of his 13 NBA years.

OK, so #3 is wrong. Whew, we are starting to run out of possibilities. Let's keep our fingers crossed and move on to #4:

4. Last year in Detroit was a disaster. When healthy, he struggled. His tendency to dominate the ball didn`t jive with the collectivist Pistons and led to GM Joe Dumars giving him the golden handshake to stay on the injured list. Other teams are leery of adding such a situation.


Notice that the writer goes from "Detroit was a disaster" to "He struggled". This is a clever way to get the reader to think that Iverson was the cause of the Detroit disaster without saying it. In other words, this is a way for the writer to stay on the good side of the large number of Iverson haters out there, without making a statement that could easily be proven incorrect, and that would look goofy to anyone who knows, for example, that most of the starting Pistons played worse in 2008-09 than they did the year before, and who knows that the Coach has been fired for incompetence, and, well, you get the point.

Very clever, he wants to have it both ways: he wants to be friends with both the Iverson haters and with those who look at the forest instead of just the trees. So this is just the writer trying to be friends with just about everybody at the same time.

For the record, there is no evidence that Joe Dumars conspired to make sure Iverson would not play in the latter part of the season. I mean, I just wrote a Report on how Dumars has seriously messed up the Pistons, but forbidding Iverson to play using a false injury routine was NOT one of Dumars' mistakes.

The most likely thing that happened is that Iverson essentially quit the Pistons. I mean, he was quoted just before he stopped playing for them that he didn't want to play in a limited off the bench role (less than 20 minutes per game). It would be kind of odd if that statement was not related to him subsequently not playing for them, don't you think?

So this reason is all goofy and doesn't hold any water.

Now its nail biting time, because we are down to just one possibility left, reason #5:

5. When convenient, the NBA has used hip hop as a marketing tool. When inconvenient, the NBA has shamefully distanced itself from anything hip hop. Right now, is one of those distancing times, so Iverson, the original face of Slam Mag`, isn`t a marketing draw.


Oh my God, a cultural / economics point. You seldom see this type of thing anywhere but at Quest.

Well, I had my fingers crossed, but this one is not correct either. First, Iverson himself is a lot less hip-hop than he was years ago. He even got rid of his corn rows this past season, a hair style closely associated with the hip hop community. So just as the NBA has become less hip hop than it was roughly a decade ago, Iverson has as well.

As to whether Iverson is not a marketing draw, that's actually true for some markets. For example, the Denver Nuggets traded for Iverson not because they were serious about winning a Championship, but because the owner and/or his advisors thought that Iverson would make him and his franchise some good money. But Denver was never a hip-hop town, and hip-hop was nationally going through a relative stagnation at that time, so the Nuggets ended up with neither a Championship appearance nor any extra money due to Iverson to speak of.

On the other hand, Memphis and Los Angeles, the former due more to intensity and the latter due more to sheer population, are still major hip hop markets, so Iverson playing for either the Grizzlies or the Clippers would make them a substantial chunk of money they would not get otherwise.

Damn, all five reasons come up lacking. The Quest for the Ring theory remains the only good one. Let me spell it out: Iverson is not wanted by hardly anyone because he has been playing the wrong position for most of his 13 years in the NBA. He is a point guard who needs to be reminded all the time to share the ball. In other words, he has been coached incorrectly for many of the years, with Larry Brown being the worst offender.

If you were a manager, would you want a player who has been playing the wrong position for most of his career? No, you wouldn't.

The bottom line is that Oly Sander is one of the very best pro basketball writers out there, and I agree with a lot of what he writes. But he is at least as much in the dark about Iverson as are the Iverson haters, maybe more so actually.

And now you see why Quest has spent so much time on the Iverson thing and why we will be completing the Special Report series and continuing to follow the Iverson saga? Because the vast majority do not understand what is going on, but we do.

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Derrick Rose CHI 1375 7.9 18.2 1.4 4.5 5.1 6.3 0.7 2.7 8.0 0.9 0.7 3.1 1.4 22.3 .435 .312 .812
Kyrie Irving CLE 1558 8.1 17.3 1.7 4.2 4.0 4.5 1.0 3.4 6.4 1.2 0.5 3.7 2.5 21.8 .469 .399 .872
LaMarcus Aldridge POR 1994 8.7 17.0 0.0 0.2 4.0 4.9 2.7 5.3 2.4 0.9 0.8 2.0 2.8 21.5 .512 .182 .814
Eric Gordon NOH 310 7.3 16.3 1.2 4.6 5.7 7.5 0.2 2.7 3.6 1.5 0.5 2.8 2.3 21.5 .450 .250 .754
DeMarcus Cousins SAC 1950 8.3 18.4 0.0 0.3 4.8 6.9 4.9 8.1 1.9 1.7 1.4 3.1 4.7 21.4 .448 .143 .702
Andrea Bargnani TOR 1032 7.3 16.9 1.2 4.0 5.3 6.0 0.8 5.2 2.1 0.6 0.5 2.4 1.8 21.0 .432 .296 .873
Deron Williams NJN 1999 7.0 17.3 2.1 6.2 4.6 5.5 0.4 2.9 8.7 1.2 0.4 3.9 2.2 20.8 .407 .336 .843
Blake Griffin LAC 2392 8.4 15.4 0.0 0.2 3.7 7.0 3.3 7.5 3.2 0.8 0.7 2.3 3.3 20.6 .549 .125 .521
Tony Parker SAS 1923 8.0 16.7 0.3 1.1 4.2 5.3 0.4 2.8 8.7 1.1 0.1 2.9 1.4 20.5 .480 .230 .799
Paul Pierce BOS 2075 6.8 15.4 1.7 4.7 5.1 6.0 0.6 4.9 4.8 1.2 0.5 3.0 2.6 20.5 .443 .366 .852
Louis Williams PHI 1682 6.8 16.7 1.8 4.9 5.1 6.2 0.6 2.7 4.7 1.1 0.4 1.5 1.9 20.5 .407 .362 .812
Al Jefferson UTA 2075 9.0 18.2 0.0 0.1 2.4 3.1 2.3 7.8 2.3 0.8 1.8 1.1 2.7 20.3 .492 .250 .774
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Danny Granger IND 2062 6.8 16.4 2.1 5.6 4.4 5.1 1.4 4.0 1.9 1.1 0.7 1.9 2.5 20.2 .416 .381 .873
Monta Ellis TOT 2120 7.6 17.7 1.1 3.4 3.7 4.7 0.3 3.1 5.9 1.4 0.3 3.0 2.3 20.1 .433 .308 .796
Manu Ginobili SAS 792 6.8 13.0 2.4 5.7 4.0 4.6 0.8 4.5 6.9 1.1 0.5 2.9 2.5 20.0 .526 .413 .871
Tim Duncan SAS 1634 8.0 16.1 0.0 0.1 3.8 5.5 2.4 9.0 2.9 0.8 1.9 2.1 2.2 19.7 .492 .000 .695
Jeremy Lin NYK 940 6.5 14.7 0.9 2.9 5.6 7.0 0.7 3.4 8.3 2.1 0.3 4.8 3.0 19.6 .446 .320 .798
Chris Paul LAC 2181 7.0 14.7 1.3 3.5 4.3 5.0 0.7 2.8 9.0 2.5 0.1 2.0 2.3 19.6 .478 .371 .861
Brandon Jennings MIL 2331 7.2 17.3 2.0 6.0 3.0 3.7 0.8 2.7 5.6 1.6 0.3 2.3 1.8 19.5 .418 .332 .808
David Lee GSW 2121 7.9 15.6 0.0 0.1 3.7 4.8 2.9 6.3 2.7 0.9 0.4 2.5 3.0 19.5 .503 .000 .782
Michael Redd PHO 770 6.7 16.8 2.0 6.2 4.1 5.2 0.7 2.9 1.5 0.6 0.0 1.7 1.4 19.5 .400 .318 .793
Dwight Howard ORL 2070 7.2 12.6 0.0 0.1 4.9 9.9 3.5 10.2 1.8 1.4 2.0 3.0 2.8 19.4 .573 .000 .491
Kevin Martin HOU 1264 6.3 15.3 2.2 6.4 4.6 5.1 0.4 2.6 3.1 0.8 0.1 2.0 2.0 19.4 .413 .347 .894
Jordan Crawford WAS 1753 7.2 17.9 1.6 5.6 3.3 4.2 0.9 2.5 3.9 1.2 0.1 2.9 2.3 19.3 .400 .289 .793
James Harden OKC 1946 5.7 11.6 2.1 5.4 5.8 6.8 0.6 4.1 4.2 1.1 0.3 2.5 2.8 19.3 .491 .390 .846
Marcus Thornton SAC 1780 7.1 16.2 2.2 6.3 2.9 3.3 1.7 2.1 2.0 1.4 0.2 1.7 2.2 19.3 .438 .345 .865
Josh Smith ATL 2329 7.8 17.0 0.4 1.7 3.1 5.0 2.1 7.7 4.0 1.4 1.8 2.5 2.7 19.2 .458 .257 .630
Amare Stoudemire NYK 1543 7.4 15.3 0.1 0.5 4.3 5.7 2.5 6.1 1.2 0.9 1.0 2.6 3.2 19.2 .483 .238 .765
Andrew Bynum LAL 2112 7.6 13.6 0.0 0.1 4.0 5.8 3.3 8.8 1.4 0.5 2.0 2.6 1.8 19.1 .558 .200 .692
Joe Johnson ATL 2127 7.2 15.8 2.1 5.4 2.7 3.1 0.9 2.8 3.9 0.8 0.2 2.0 1.3 19.1 .454 .388 .849
Stephen Curry GSW 732 7.1 14.6 2.7 6.0 1.9 2.3 0.7 3.6 6.8 1.9 0.4 3.2 3.0 18.8 .490 .455 .809
Drew Gooden MIL 1469 7.0 16.1 0.4 1.3 4.3 5.1 3.2 5.7 3.5 1.1 0.8 2.7 2.7 18.8 .437 .291 .846
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Antawn Jamison CLE 2151 7.0 17.5 1.5 4.5 3.1 4.5 2.1 4.8 2.2 0.9 0.7 1.5 2.7 18.7 .403 .341 .683
Al Harrington DEN 1761 7.1 15.8 2.1 6.2 2.4 3.6 1.5 6.5 1.8 1.2 0.2 2.3 3.7 18.6 .446 .333 .676
Nikola Pekovic MIN 1264 7.3 12.9 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.3 5.2 4.7 0.9 0.8 0.9 2.5 2.8 18.5 .564 .743
Klay Thompson GSW 1608 7.1 16.1 2.5 6.0 1.8 2.0 0.5 3.1 3.0 1.1 0.4 2.3 3.5 18.5 .443 .414 .868
Leandro Barbosa TOT 1382 7.1 16.6 1.7 4.4 2.6 3.2 0.9 2.5 2.5 1.5 0.2 2.4 3.5 18.4 .425 .382 .815
Chris Bosh MIA 2007 7.0 14.5 0.2 0.6 4.1 5.0 1.7 6.4 1.8 0.9 0.8 2.1 2.3 18.4 .487 .286 .821
Gerald Green NJN 781 7.1 14.8 2.0 5.1 2.3 3.0 0.7 4.3 1.6 1.3 0.8 2.5 3.7 18.4 .481 .391 .754
Carl Landry NOH 999 6.6 13.0 0.0 0.1 5.3 6.6 2.8 4.9 1.4 0.5 0.4 2.3 3.2 18.4 .503 .000 .799
Carlos Boozer CHI 1948 8.3 15.6 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.5 2.1 8.3 2.3 1.2 0.4 2.1 3.1 18.3 .532 .000 .693
Kevin Garnett BOS 1864 7.6 15.0 0.1 0.2 3.1 3.7 1.3 8.3 3.4 1.1 1.2 2.1 2.7 18.3 .503 .333 .857
Rudy Gay MEM 2422 7.2 15.9 0.8 2.6 3.1 3.9 1.9 4.3 2.2 1.4 0.8 2.4 2.1 18.3 .455 .312 .791
Nick Young TOT 1729 6.6 16.3 2.1 5.9 3.0 3.5 0.6 2.1 1.2 0.9 0.4 1.7 2.9 18.3 .403 .365 .852
Paul Millsap UTA 2100 7.3 14.8 0.1 0.5 3.5 4.4 3.1 6.6 2.6 2.0 0.9 1.9 3.8 18.2 .495 .226 .792
Jerryd Bayless TOR 705 6.0 14.1 2.2 5.3 3.8 4.5 0.4 3.0 6.0 1.2 0.2 2.7 3.6 18.0 .424 .423 .852

TOP NBA SCORERS 2012 CHART 2 OF 3 >>> MOST EFFICIENT SCORERS in 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
Each year QFTR publishes Real Player Ratings for every player in the NBA who has played at least 300 minutes. Real Player Ratings are comprehensive player ratings that are very carefully designed and quality controlled. Starting in 2012, the Ratings are supplemented by seven per 36 minutes charts which show player performance in seven of the very most important performance measures, all of which are components of Real Player Ratings (but there are other components that go into Real Player Ratings). These charts are stationed on the home page at all times. This is most likely the only place on the Internet where this key player information is shown in this optimal way.

Here we have the most efficient scorers of the NBA in 2011-2012 as indicated by shooting percentage or in other words field goal percentage. This is "FG%" in the chart. All items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

For this and all the other charts, a minimum of 300 minutes of playing time is required. To be on this chart, players had to have a shooting percentage of .500 or higher AND they have to have scored at least 9 points per 36 minutes.

This is one of the seven "7/36 Charts". A short user guide for these is found in this Report.

Here now are how the most efficient scorers in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:
Player               Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB  DRB  AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Tyson Chandler NYK 2061 4.2 6.2 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.5 3.7 7.0 1.0 1.0 1.6 1.8 3.2 12.2 .679 .000 .689
DeAndre Jordan LAC 1798 4.1 6.5 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.8 4.0 6.9 0.3 0.6 2.7 1.5 3.8 9.7 .632 .000 .525
Tiago Splitter SAS 1121 6.8 11.0 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.8 3.0 6.8 2.1 0.7 1.5 2.8 4.3 17.6 .618 .691
Brandan Wright DAL 791 6.6 10.6 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.7 2.8 5.1 0.6 1.0 2.9 1.0 2.8 15.5 .618 .000 .634
Andris Biedrins GSW 739 1.9 3.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.4 2.2 6.4 0.8 1.1 2.2 0.7 6.1 3.8 .609 .111
Kosta Koufos DEN 792 5.2 8.7 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.5 4.3 7.4 0.7 1.1 1.9 1.5 4.4 12.0 .599 .600
Chris Wilcox BOS 481 4.8 8.0 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.9 2.8 6.3 0.9 0.8 0.7 2.2 4.8 11.4 .598 .615
Nick Collison OKC 1307 3.3 5.5 0.0 0.0 1.2 1.7 3.3 4.3 2.3 0.9 0.8 1.7 4.2 7.8 .597 .000 .710
Kenneth Faried DEN 1037 6.3 10.7 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.7 4.9 7.3 1.2 1.2 1.6 1.9 4.0 16.4 .586 .665
Amir Johnson TOR 1553 4.5 7.9 0.0 0.1 1.3 1.9 3.5 6.0 1.8 0.8 1.6 2.2 4.8 10.5 .576 .400 .690
Dwight Howard ORL 2070 7.2 12.6 0.0 0.1 4.9 9.9 3.5 10.2 1.8 1.4 2.0 3.0 2.8 19.4 .573 .000 .491
Nikola Pekovic MIN 1264 7.3 12.9 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.3 5.2 4.7 0.9 0.8 0.9 2.5 2.8 18.5 .564 .743
Joel Anthony MIA 1349 2.3 4.1 0.0 0.0 1.3 1.9 2.7 4.0 0.2 1.0 2.2 1.2 3.4 5.8 .559 .690
Andrew Bynum LAL 2112 7.6 13.6 0.0 0.1 4.0 5.8 3.3 8.8 1.4 0.5 2.0 2.6 1.8 19.1 .558 .200 .692
JaVale McGee TOT 1535 7.2 12.9 0.0 0.0 1.8 3.9 3.8 7.4 0.7 0.8 3.1 2.0 3.9 16.2 .556 .461
Marcin Gortat PHO 2114 7.3 13.1 0.0 0.0 2.8 4.3 3.2 8.1 1.0 0.8 1.7 1.5 2.4 17.3 .555 .000 .649
Al Horford ATL 348 5.9 10.7 0.0 0.1 2.3 3.1 2.7 5.3 2.5 1.0 1.4 1.7 2.2 14.1 .553 .000 .733
Blake Griffin LAC 2392 8.4 15.4 0.0 0.2 3.7 7.0 3.3 7.5 3.2 0.8 0.7 2.3 3.3 20.6 .549 .125 .521
Ryan Hollins TOT 522 3.2 5.8 0.0 0.0 2.7 5.2 2.3 3.3 0.6 0.3 1.2 2.4 5.4 9.0 .548 .520
Chris Andersen DEN 486 4.4 8.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 6.1 3.6 7.4 0.4 1.4 3.4 1.3 3.9 12.4 .546 .610
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Ian Mahinmi DAL 1139 4.1 7.5 0.0 0.0 3.0 4.6 3.4 5.7 0.4 1.2 1.0 1.6 5.6 11.2 .546 .000 .639
Greg Stiemsma BOS 766 3.1 5.7 0.0 0.0 1.4 1.9 2.3 6.1 1.3 1.7 4.0 1.6 6.8 7.6 .545 .707
Nene Hilario TOT 1110 6.8 12.7 0.0 0.1 3.7 5.4 2.0 7.4 2.6 1.4 1.2 3.1 3.1 17.4 .537 .000 .673
Jan Vesely WAS 1078 3.9 7.3 0.0 0.0 1.1 2.1 3.4 4.9 1.6 1.3 1.1 2.0 5.2 8.9 .537 .000 .532
Gustavo Ayon NOH 1088 4.6 8.6 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.1 2.8 5.9 2.4 1.8 1.5 1.5 3.9 10.6 .536 .000 .619
Serge Ibaka OKC 1792 5.3 9.8 0.0 0.1 1.6 2.4 3.9 6.1 0.6 0.7 4.8 1.6 3.6 12.1 .535 .333 .661
Jason Thompson SAC 1657 5.1 9.6 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.9 3.6 6.0 1.7 0.9 1.0 1.5 3.2 12.7 .535 .000 .602
DeJuan Blair SAS 1363 7.1 13.3 0.0 0.0 1.9 3.1 4.1 5.2 2.1 1.6 0.3 2.4 4.4 16.1 .534 .000 .613
Emeka Okafor NOH 781 5.3 9.9 0.0 0.0 1.8 3.4 3.2 6.6 1.1 0.7 1.2 1.7 3.4 12.3 .533 .514
Carlos Boozer CHI 1948 8.3 15.6 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.5 2.1 8.3 2.3 1.2 0.4 2.1 3.1 18.3 .532 .000 .693
Steve Nash PHO 1961 5.4 10.2 1.0 2.6 2.3 2.6 0.5 2.9 12.2 0.7 0.1 4.2 1.0 14.2 .532 .390 .894
Trevor Booker WAS 1261 5.2 9.7 0.0 0.1 1.6 2.7 3.4 5.9 1.1 1.4 1.2 1.7 3.9 12.0 .531 .500 .602
LeBron James MIA 2326 9.6 18.1 0.8 2.3 6.0 7.8 1.5 6.2 6.0 1.8 0.8 3.3 1.5 26.0 .531 .362 .771
Kevin Seraphin WAS 1176 6.2 11.7 0.0 0.0 1.4 2.1 3.2 5.4 1.0 0.6 2.3 2.0 4.1 13.9 .531 .000 .671
Semih Erden CLE 333 4.2 8.0 0.0 0.0 2.3 4.4 2.2 5.6 1.0 1.1 0.5 1.7 6.5 10.7 .527 .512
Manu Ginobili SAS 792 6.8 13.0 2.4 5.7 4.0 4.6 0.8 4.5 6.9 1.1 0.5 2.9 2.5 20.0 .526 .413 .871
Timofey Mozgov DEN 687 5.2 10.0 0.0 0.0 2.0 3.0 2.8 6.6 1.2 0.8 2.2 2.8 4.5 12.5 .526 .684
Greg Monroe DET 2082 7.0 13.5 0.0 0.0 3.5 4.7 4.1 6.9 2.6 1.4 0.8 2.8 3.1 17.6 .521 .000 .739
Jason Smith NOH 947 6.9 13.2 0.0 0.3 1.3 1.8 2.7 4.7 1.3 0.8 1.6 1.5 3.9 15.1 .520 .111 .702
Derrick Brown CHA 1443 5.3 10.2 0.1 0.6 2.3 3.5 2.4 3.5 1.7 1.2 0.3 1.4 2.4 13.1 .518 .250 .667
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Brendan Haywood DAL 1146 3.7 7.2 0.0 0.0 1.4 3.0 4.4 5.8 0.6 0.8 1.7 1.4 3.8 8.8 .518 .469
Dante Cunningham MEM 1124 4.6 8.9 0.0 0.1 1.4 2.2 2.9 5.0 1.2 1.3 1.1 0.9 3.1 10.7 .516 .000 .652
Aaron Gray TOR 813 3.7 7.1 0.0 0.0 1.1 2.1 3.7 8.8 1.2 1.0 0.8 2.3 5.6 8.5 .516 .532
Anderson Varejao CLE 785 5.2 10.2 0.0 0.2 2.0 2.9 5.0 8.2 2.0 1.6 0.8 2.1 2.8 12.4 .514 .000 .672
Ed Davis TOR 1534 4.0 7.9 0.0 0.0 1.7 2.5 3.1 7.1 1.4 0.9 1.5 1.6 3.7 9.7 .513 .000 .670
Ivan Johnson ATL 934 5.4 10.6 0.1 0.2 2.8 3.9 2.5 6.2 1.2 1.7 0.7 2.7 4.5 13.7 .513 .333 .720
LaMarcus Aldridge POR 1994 8.7 17.0 0.0 0.2 4.0 4.9 2.7 5.3 2.4 0.9 0.8 2.0 2.8 21.5 .512 .182 .814
Luc Mbah a Moute MIL 1009 4.7 9.3 0.0 0.1 2.4 3.7 2.7 5.4 1.0 1.4 0.8 1.4 3.3 11.9 .510 .250 .641
Jon Leuer MIL 555 6.3 12.4 0.2 0.6 1.4 1.8 2.9 4.9 1.6 0.9 1.1 1.2 4.3 14.1 .508 .333 .750
Joakim Noah CHI 1945 4.6 9.1 0.0 0.0 2.9 3.8 4.5 7.2 3.0 0.8 1.7 1.7 3.0 12.1 .508 .000 .748
Jordan Williams NJN 635 4.4 8.6 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.7 3.7 5.1 0.6 1.2 0.9 1.3 3.5 11.2 .507 .652
Thaddeus Young PHI 1755 7.1 14.1 0.0 0.1 2.3 3.0 2.8 3.9 1.5 1.3 0.8 1.1 2.6 16.6 .507 .250 .771
Omer Asik CHI 971 2.9 5.8 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.8 4.7 8.3 1.2 1.1 2.5 2.5 4.5 7.6 .506 .456
Samuel Dalembert HOU 1446 5.0 9.8 0.0 0.0 2.2 2.8 3.9 7.4 0.8 0.9 2.8 2.0 4.0 12.2 .506 .000 .796
Craig Smith POR 464 4.6 9.1 0.0 0.1 2.9 4.1 2.6 6.0 1.5 1.2 0.4 1.9 4.3 12.1 .504 .000 .717
Kevin Garnett BOS 1864 7.6 15.0 0.1 0.2 3.1 3.7 1.3 8.3 3.4 1.1 1.2 2.1 2.7 18.3 .503 .333 .857
Carl Landry NOH 999 6.6 13.0 0.0 0.1 5.3 6.6 2.8 4.9 1.4 0.5 0.4 2.3 3.2 18.4 .503 .000 .799
David Lee GSW 2121 7.9 15.6 0.0 0.1 3.7 4.8 2.9 6.3 2.7 0.9 0.4 2.5 3.0 19.5 .503 .000 .782
Pau Gasol LAL 2430 6.8 13.6 0.1 0.4 3.0 3.9 2.7 7.3 3.5 0.5 1.3 2.1 1.9 16.7 .501 .259 .782
Brandon Rush GSW 1717 4.9 9.8 2.1 4.6 1.4 1.7 0.7 4.6 1.8 0.7 1.2 1.4 1.3 13.3 .501 .452 .793

TOP NBA SCORERS CHART 3 OF 3 >>> BEST THREE-POINT SCORERS in 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
Each year QFTR publishes Real Player Ratings for every player in the NBA who has played at least 300 minutes. Real Player Ratings are comprehensive player ratings that are very carefully designed and quality controlled. Starting in 2012, the Ratings are supplemented by seven per 36 minutes charts which show player performance in seven of the very most important performance measures, all of which are components of Real Player Ratings (but there are other components that go into Real Player Ratings). These charts are stationed on the home page at all times. This is most likely the only place on the Internet where this key player information is shown in this optimal way.

Here we have the best 3-point scorers of the NBA in 2011-2012 as indicated by 3-point shooting percentage. This is "3P%" in the chart. All items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

For this and all the other charts, a minimum of 300 minutes of playing time is required. Players who make at least 2.2 three-point shots per 36 minutes and who have at least a .300 (30%) three-point shot shooting percentage are the only ones qualified to be on this list.

This is one of the seven "7/36 Charts". A short user guide for these is found in this Report.

Here now are how the best 3-point scorers in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:

Player                 Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P  3PA  FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Steve Novak NYK 1020 5.7 11.9 4.7 10.0 0.8 0.9 0.3 3.4 0.4 0.6 0.3 0.7 2.1 16.8 .478 .472 .846
Stephen Curry GSW 732 7.1 14.6 2.7 6.0 1.9 2.3 0.7 3.6 6.8 1.9 0.4 3.2 3.0 18.8 .490 .455 .809
Ray Allen BOS 1565 5.2 11.3 2.4 5.4 2.2 2.4 0.3 2.9 2.5 1.1 0.2 1.6 1.9 15.1 .458 .453 .915
Mike Miller MIA 752 4.4 10.0 2.5 5.6 0.1 0.2 1.1 5.1 2.0 0.7 0.3 1.4 2.8 11.3 .435 .453 .400
Jordan Farmar NJN 831 6.4 13.6 2.4 5.4 2.5 2.7 0.3 2.3 5.6 1.0 0.1 2.9 2.1 17.6 .467 .440 .905
Danny Green SAS 1522 5.0 11.3 2.4 5.5 1.9 2.4 1.3 4.1 2.0 1.4 1.1 1.6 2.5 14.3 .442 .436 .790
Kyle Korver CHI 1469 4.4 10.1 2.9 6.6 1.3 1.6 0.6 3.3 2.7 0.9 0.4 1.3 2.7 13.0 .432 .435 .833
Luke Babbitt POR 537 4.8 11.6 2.9 6.7 1.1 1.3 1.1 5.3 1.1 0.7 0.3 1.8 3.1 13.5 .410 .430 .850
Jerryd Bayless TOR 705 6.0 14.1 2.2 5.3 3.8 4.5 0.4 3.0 6.0 1.2 0.2 2.7 3.6 18.0 .424 .423 .852
Matt Bonner SAS 1326 4.2 9.5 2.9 6.8 0.4 0.6 0.8 5.0 1.7 0.4 0.6 0.4 1.8 11.6 .440 .420 .762
Richard Jefferson TOT 1748 4.2 10.1 2.3 5.5 1.2 1.8 0.5 4.0 1.8 0.8 0.4 1.0 2.5 11.9 .416 .420 .694
Gary Neal SAS 1206 6.3 14.5 2.5 5.9 1.5 1.9 0.4 3.2 3.5 0.8 0.1 1.8 2.2 16.6 .436 .419 .781
J.J. Redick ORL 1765 5.1 11.9 2.3 5.5 2.9 3.2 0.4 2.7 3.3 0.6 0.1 1.4 1.9 15.3 .425 .418 .911
Klay Thompson GSW 1608 7.1 16.1 2.5 6.0 1.8 2.0 0.5 3.1 3.0 1.1 0.4 2.3 3.5 18.5 .443 .414 .868
Manu Ginobili SAS 792 6.8 13.0 2.4 5.7 4.0 4.6 0.8 4.5 6.9 1.1 0.5 2.9 2.5 20.0 .526 .413 .871
James Jones MIA 666 3.1 8.1 2.5 6.2 1.4 1.6 0.3 2.3 1.0 0.9 0.5 0.5 2.4 10.0 .380 .404 .833
Chase Budinger HOU 1298 5.8 13.1 2.4 6.1 1.5 1.9 1.1 5.0 2.1 0.8 0.2 1.5 1.8 15.5 .442 .402 .771
Ryan Anderson ORL 1964 6.1 13.9 3.0 7.7 2.7 3.1 4.1 4.5 1.0 0.9 0.5 1.0 2.7 18.0 .439 .393 .877
John Lucas CHI 726 7.1 17.8 2.7 6.9 1.4 1.6 1.1 2.7 5.4 0.9 0.0 2.1 2.1 18.3 .399 .393 .875
Mo Williams LAC 1472 6.4 14.9 2.3 5.8 1.8 2.0 0.6 1.9 3.9 1.2 0.2 2.1 2.5 16.8 .426 .389 .900
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Cartier Martin WAS 391 5.4 12.3 2.7 6.9 1.0 1.7 1.1 4.2 0.9 1.0 0.2 1.2 3.2 14.5 .440 .387 .579
Randy Foye LAC 1682 5.5 13.8 2.7 7.0 1.6 1.8 0.5 2.4 3.1 1.0 0.5 1.6 2.8 15.2 .398 .386 .859
Chauncey Billups LAC 607 4.9 13.5 2.8 7.4 5.0 5.6 0.2 2.7 4.7 0.5 0.2 2.3 2.4 17.7 .364 .384 .895
Jannero Pargo ATL 671 5.6 13.6 2.8 7.4 1.0 1.1 0.5 3.4 5.2 1.1 0.1 2.6 3.4 15.1 .415 .384 .950
Roger Mason WAS 697 5.3 13.3 3.0 8.0 1.1 1.4 0.4 3.2 2.4 0.7 0.3 1.7 1.7 14.8 .399 .383 .778
Jason Terry DAL 2000 6.4 14.9 2.5 6.6 1.8 2.0 0.3 2.4 4.1 1.3 0.2 2.3 1.2 17.1 .430 .378 .883
Andrew Goudelock LAL 419 5.8 14.9 2.4 6.4 0.9 1.0 0.4 2.2 1.7 0.3 0.0 1.8 2.7 15.0 .391 .373 .917
Anthony Morrow NJN 1636 6.0 14.5 2.3 6.3 2.1 2.3 0.7 2.1 1.3 1.0 0.2 1.5 1.9 16.4 .413 .371 .933
Vladimir Radmanovic ATL 755 3.5 9.4 2.4 6.4 1.0 1.4 1.6 5.2 2.6 1.0 0.7 1.7 3.0 10.5 .376 .370 .759
Jason Richardson ORL 1591 5.5 13.5 2.3 6.3 0.9 1.6 0.8 3.6 2.4 1.2 0.5 1.4 2.1 14.2 .408 .368 .594
Jimmer Fredette SAC 1135 5.5 14.1 2.5 6.9 1.3 1.5 0.5 1.8 3.4 1.0 0.1 2.1 2.3 14.7 .386 .361 .833
Dorell Wright GSW 1650 4.8 11.5 2.3 6.4 1.7 2.1 1.3 4.8 2.1 1.3 0.6 1.1 2.1 13.7 .422 .360 .816
Kevin Martin HOU 1264 6.3 15.3 2.2 6.4 4.6 5.1 0.4 2.6 3.1 0.8 0.1 2.0 2.0 19.4 .413 .347 .894
J.R. Smith NYK 967 6.1 15.1 2.5 7.2 1.5 2.0 1.1 4.0 3.1 2.0 0.2 1.7 3.2 16.2 .407 .347 .709
Daequan Cook OKC 989 4.0 10.8 2.9 8.3 0.5 0.8 0.4 4.0 0.5 0.8 0.4 0.6 2.5 11.3 .368 .346 .636
Mickael Pietrus BOS 921 4.1 10.6 2.4 7.1 0.8 1.2 0.7 4.4 1.0 0.8 0.4 1.3 3.2 11.3 .385 .335 .645

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TOP NBA DEFENDERS CHART 1 OF 3 >>> TOP REBOUNDERS in 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
Each year QFTR publishes Real Player Ratings for every player in the NBA who has played at least 300 minutes. Real Player Ratings are comprehensive player ratings that are very carefully designed and quality controlled. Starting in 2012, the Ratings are supplemented by seven per 36 minutes charts which show player performance in seven of the very most important performance measures, all of which are components of Real Player Ratings (but there are other components that go into Real Player Ratings). These charts are stationed on the home page at all times. This is most likely the only place on the Internet where this key player information is shown in this optimal way.

Here we have the best defensive rebounders of the NBA in 2011-2012 as indicated by defensive rebounds per 36 minutes playing time. This is "DRB" in the chart. All items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

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This is one of the seven "7/36 Charts". A short user guide for these is found in this Report.

Here now are how the best defensive rebounders in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:
Player              Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB  DRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Dwight Howard ORL 2070 7.2 12.6 0.0 0.1 4.9 9.9 3.5 10.2 1.8 1.4 2.0 3.0 2.8 19.4 .573 .000 .491
Marcus Camby TOT 1352 3.4 7.6 0.1 0.1 0.8 1.7 4.2 9.9 2.8 1.3 2.3 1.5 3.4 7.6 .446 .400 .453
Tim Duncan SAS 1634 8.0 16.1 0.0 0.1 3.8 5.5 2.4 9.0 2.9 0.8 1.9 2.1 2.2 19.7 .492 .000 .695
Andrew Bynum LAL 2112 7.6 13.6 0.0 0.1 4.0 5.8 3.3 8.8 1.4 0.5 2.0 2.6 1.8 19.1 .558 .200 .692
Aaron Gray TOR 813 3.7 7.1 0.0 0.0 1.1 2.1 3.7 8.8 1.2 1.0 0.8 2.3 5.6 8.5 .516 .532
Joel Przybilla POR 449 1.8 3.8 0.0 0.0 0.9 1.4 2.3 8.7 0.5 0.3 1.3 1.8 5.3 4.4 .458 .611
Kevin Love MIN 2145 8.0 17.8 1.8 4.7 6.4 7.7 3.8 8.5 1.9 0.8 0.5 2.1 2.6 24.0 .448 .372 .824
Jamaal Magloire TOR 374 1.6 4.3 0.0 0.0 0.7 2.6 2.4 8.5 0.6 0.4 1.0 2.1 6.4 3.9 .378 .259
Omer Asik CHI 971 2.9 5.8 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.8 4.7 8.3 1.2 1.1 2.5 2.5 4.5 7.6 .506 .456
Carlos Boozer CHI 1948 8.3 15.6 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.5 2.1 8.3 2.3 1.2 0.4 2.1 3.1 18.3 .532 .000 .693
Kevin Garnett BOS 1864 7.6 15.0 0.1 0.2 3.1 3.7 1.3 8.3 3.4 1.1 1.2 2.1 2.7 18.3 .503 .333 .857
Jordan Hill TOT 551 5.4 10.8 0.0 0.2 2.0 3.1 4.0 8.2 1.0 0.9 1.8 2.0 4.6 12.7 .497 .000 .638
Anderson Varejao CLE 785 5.2 10.2 0.0 0.2 2.0 2.9 5.0 8.2 2.0 1.6 0.8 2.1 2.8 12.4 .514 .000 .672
DeMarcus Cousins SAC 1950 8.3 18.4 0.0 0.3 4.8 6.9 4.9 8.1 1.9 1.7 1.4 3.1 4.7 21.4 .448 .143 .702
Marcin Gortat PHO 2114 7.3 13.1 0.0 0.0 2.8 4.3 3.2 8.1 1.0 0.8 1.7 1.5 2.4 17.3 .555 .000 .649
Reggie Evans LAC 771 1.6 3.4 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.3 4.7 8.0 0.8 1.4 0.3 2.1 5.5 4.9 .472 .507
Udonis Haslem MIA 1589 3.4 8.1 0.0 0.0 1.9 2.3 2.7 8.0 1.0 0.8 0.5 1.4 3.2 8.7 .423 .814
Al Jefferson UTA 2075 9.0 18.2 0.0 0.1 2.4 3.1 2.3 7.8 2.3 0.8 1.8 1.1 2.7 20.3 .492 .250 .774
Andrew Bogut MIL 364 6.0 13.5 0.0 0.1 1.4 2.3 2.2 7.7 3.1 1.2 2.4 2.4 3.6 13.5 .449 .000 .609
Josh Smith ATL 2329 7.8 17.0 0.4 1.7 3.1 5.0 2.1 7.7 4.0 1.4 1.8 2.5 2.7 19.2 .458 .257 .630
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Blake Griffin LAC 2392 8.4 15.4 0.0 0.2 3.7 7.0 3.3 7.5 3.2 0.8 0.7 2.3 3.3 20.6 .549 .125 .521
Spencer Hawes PHI 920 6.1 12.5 0.1 0.5 1.6 2.2 3.1 7.5 3.8 0.6 1.9 2.2 3.9 13.9 .489 .250 .727
Kris Humphries NJN 2162 5.4 11.2 0.0 0.0 3.5 4.6 3.9 7.5 1.5 0.8 1.2 2.0 2.9 14.2 .481 .752
Chris Andersen DEN 486 4.4 8.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 6.1 3.6 7.4 0.4 1.4 3.4 1.3 3.9 12.4 .546 .610
Samuel Dalembert HOU 1446 5.0 9.8 0.0 0.0 2.2 2.8 3.9 7.4 0.8 0.9 2.8 2.0 4.0 12.2 .506 .000 .796
Nene Hilario TOT 1110 6.8 12.7 0.0 0.1 3.7 5.4 2.0 7.4 2.6 1.4 1.2 3.1 3.1 17.4 .537 .000 .673
Kosta Koufos DEN 792 5.2 8.7 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.5 4.3 7.4 0.7 1.1 1.9 1.5 4.4 12.0 .599 .600
JaVale McGee TOT 1535 7.2 12.9 0.0 0.0 1.8 3.9 3.8 7.4 0.7 0.8 3.1 2.0 3.9 16.2 .556 .461
Kenneth Faried DEN 1037 6.3 10.7 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.7 4.9 7.3 1.2 1.2 1.6 1.9 4.0 16.4 .586 .665
Pau Gasol LAL 2430 6.8 13.6 0.1 0.4 3.0 3.9 2.7 7.3 3.5 0.5 1.3 2.1 1.9 16.7 .501 .259 .782
Evan Turner PHI 1713 5.5 12.4 0.2 1.0 1.5 2.3 0.6 7.3 3.8 0.8 0.4 2.2 2.5 12.8 .446 .224 .676
Lavoy Allen PHI 624 4.6 9.6 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.8 2.7 7.2 2.0 0.7 1.0 1.2 4.2 9.7 .473 .786
Ersan Ilyasova MIL 1655 6.4 13.0 1.1 2.4 3.1 4.0 4.3 7.2 1.5 0.9 1.0 1.7 2.9 17.0 .492 .455 .781
Chris Kaman NOH 1372 7.0 15.7 0.0 0.0 2.2 2.8 2.3 7.2 2.7 0.7 2.0 3.4 2.8 16.2 .446 .785
Joakim Noah CHI 1945 4.6 9.1 0.0 0.0 2.9 3.8 4.5 7.2 3.0 0.8 1.7 1.7 3.0 12.1 .508 .000 .748
Zach Randolph MEM 735 6.5 14.0 0.1 0.4 2.8 4.3 3.8 7.2 2.4 1.0 0.2 2.0 2.8 15.9 .463 .250 .659
Ed Davis TOR 1534 4.0 7.9 0.0 0.0 1.7 2.5 3.1 7.1 1.4 0.9 1.5 1.6 3.7 9.7 .513 .000 .670
Tyson Chandler NYK 2061 4.2 6.2 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.5 3.7 7.0 1.0 1.0 1.6 1.8 3.2 12.2 .679 .000 .689
Derrick Favors UTA 1376 5.8 11.6 0.0 0.0 3.3 5.1 4.1 7.0 1.1 1.0 1.7 2.7 3.8 14.9 .499 .649
Marc Gasol MEM 2370 5.4 11.2 0.0 0.2 3.6 4.8 1.8 7.0 3.1 0.9 1.8 1.8 3.1 14.5 .482 .083 .748
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Enes Kanter UTA 874 4.8 9.7 0.0 0.0 2.9 4.3 4.4 7.0 0.3 0.7 0.9 2.2 3.6 12.5 .496 .000 .667
Nikola Vucevic PHI 812 5.8 12.9 0.1 0.4 0.8 1.5 3.9 7.0 1.4 0.9 1.5 1.5 4.9 12.5 .450 .375 .529
Kevin Durant OKC 2546 9.1 18.3 1.9 4.9 6.1 7.1 0.6 6.9 3.3 1.2 1.1 3.5 1.9 26.2 .496 .387 .860
DeAndre Jordan LAC 1798 4.1 6.5 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.8 4.0 6.9 0.3 0.6 2.7 1.5 3.8 9.7 .632 .000 .525
Greg Monroe DET 2082 7.0 13.5 0.0 0.0 3.5 4.7 4.1 6.9 2.6 1.4 0.8 2.8 3.1 17.6 .521 .000 .739
Ben Wallace DET 980 1.2 3.2 0.0 0.1 0.6 1.7 3.0 6.9 1.6 1.7 1.9 1.2 2.2 3.1 .395 .250 .340
Tiago Splitter SAS 1121 6.8 11.0 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.8 3.0 6.8 2.1 0.7 1.5 2.8 4.3 17.6 .618 .691
Roy Hibbert IND 1937 6.2 12.4 0.0 0.0 3.2 4.4 4.0 6.7 2.0 0.6 2.4 2.4 3.6 15.5 .497 .000 .711
Zaza Pachulia ATL 1640 3.7 7.4 0.0 0.0 2.6 3.5 3.4 6.7 1.7 1.2 0.6 1.8 3.8 10.0 .499 .741
Kurt Thomas POR 803 3.3 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.9 1.7 6.7 2.1 1.1 1.4 1.4 5.5 7.2 .465 .700
Channing Frye PHO 1669 5.5 13.2 2.0 5.7 1.6 1.8 1.5 6.6 1.9 0.9 1.5 1.4 3.8 14.5 .416 .346 .890
Paul Millsap UTA 2100 7.3 14.8 0.1 0.5 3.5 4.4 3.1 6.6 2.6 2.0 0.9 1.9 3.8 18.2 .495 .226 .792
Timofey Mozgov DEN 687 5.2 10.0 0.0 0.0 2.0 3.0 2.8 6.6 1.2 0.8 2.2 2.8 4.5 12.5 .526 .684
Emeka Okafor NOH 781 5.3 9.9 0.0 0.0 1.8 3.4 3.2 6.6 1.1 0.7 1.2 1.7 3.4 12.3 .533 .514
Al Harrington DEN 1761 7.1 15.8 2.1 6.2 2.4 3.6 1.5 6.5 1.8 1.2 0.2 2.3 3.7 18.6 .446 .333 .676

TOP NBA DEFENDERS CHART 2 OF 3 >>> TOP BLOCKERS in 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
Each year QFTR publishes Real Player Ratings for every player in the NBA who has played at least 300 minutes. Real Player Ratings are comprehensive player ratings that are very carefully designed and quality controlled. Starting in 2012, the Ratings are supplemented by seven per 36 minutes charts which show player performance in seven of the very most important performance measures, all of which are components of Real Player Ratings (but there are other components that go into Real Player Ratings). These charts are stationed on the home page at all times. This is most likely the only place on the Internet where this key player information is shown in this optimal way.

Here we have the best (defensive) blockers of the NBA in 2011-2012 as indicated by blocks per 36 minutes playing time. This is "BLK" in the chart. All items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

For this and all the other charts, a minimum of 300 minutes of playing time is required. Only players who made at least 1.5 blocks per 36 minutes are shown here.

This is one of the seven "7/36 Charts". A short user guide for these is found in this Report.

Here now are how the best blockers in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:
Player              Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB  DRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Serge Ibaka OKC 1792 5.3 9.8 0.0 0.1 1.6 2.4 3.9 6.1 0.6 0.7 4.8 1.6 3.6 12.1 .535 .333 .661
Larry Sanders MIL 643 4.7 10.3 0.0 0.1 1.0 2.1 3.5 5.5 1.8 1.8 4.3 2.4 7.4 10.4 .457 .000 .474
Greg Stiemsma BOS 766 3.1 5.7 0.0 0.0 1.4 1.9 2.3 6.1 1.3 1.7 4.0 1.6 6.8 7.6 .545 .707
Chris Andersen DEN 486 4.4 8.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 6.1 3.6 7.4 0.4 1.4 3.4 1.3 3.9 12.4 .546 .610
JaVale McGee TOT 1535 7.2 12.9 0.0 0.0 1.8 3.9 3.8 7.4 0.7 0.8 3.1 2.0 3.9 16.2 .556 .461
Brandan Wright DAL 791 6.6 10.6 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.7 2.8 5.1 0.6 1.0 2.9 1.0 2.8 15.5 .618 .000 .634
Bismack Biyombo CHA 1455 3.2 6.9 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.5 2.8 6.3 0.7 0.5 2.8 1.8 3.6 8.1 .464 .483
Samuel Dalembert HOU 1446 5.0 9.8 0.0 0.0 2.2 2.8 3.9 7.4 0.8 0.9 2.8 2.0 4.0 12.2 .506 .000 .796
Ekpe Udoh TOT 1290 3.5 8.2 0.0 0.1 2.4 3.2 2.8 4.3 1.6 1.1 2.8 1.5 4.9 9.5 .431 .000 .754
DeAndre Jordan LAC 1798 4.1 6.5 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.8 4.0 6.9 0.3 0.6 2.7 1.5 3.8 9.7 .632 .000 .525
Jermaine ONeal BOS 570 3.3 7.6 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.0 2.3 6.2 0.6 0.5 2.7 1.3 5.1 7.9 .433 .677
Omer Asik CHI 971 2.9 5.8 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.8 4.7 8.3 1.2 1.1 2.5 2.5 4.5 7.6 .506 .456
Andrew Bogut MIL 364 6.0 13.5 0.0 0.1 1.4 2.3 2.2 7.7 3.1 1.2 2.4 2.4 3.6 13.5 .449 .000 .609
Roy Hibbert IND 1937 6.2 12.4 0.0 0.0 3.2 4.4 4.0 6.7 2.0 0.6 2.4 2.4 3.6 15.5 .497 .000 .711
Robin Lopez PHO 895 5.0 10.8 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.6 3.6 4.8 0.8 0.7 2.4 1.7 5.1 14.0 .461 .714
Anthony Randolph MIN 517 6.5 13.9 0.0 0.1 4.5 5.8 2.9 5.6 1.3 0.9 2.4 2.8 3.9 17.5 .470 .000 .762
Marcus Camby TOT 1352 3.4 7.6 0.1 0.1 0.8 1.7 4.2 9.9 2.8 1.3 2.3 1.5 3.4 7.6 .446 .400 .453
Taj Gibson CHI 1284 5.6 11.3 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.8 3.8 5.5 1.3 0.8 2.3 1.7 3.7 13.6 .495 .622
Kevin Seraphin WAS 1176 6.2 11.7 0.0 0.0 1.4 2.1 3.2 5.4 1.0 0.6 2.3 2.0 4.1 13.9 .531 .000 .671
Joel Anthony MIA 1349 2.3 4.1 0.0 0.0 1.3 1.9 2.7 4.0 0.2 1.0 2.2 1.2 3.4 5.8 .559 .690
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Andris Biedrins GSW 739 1.9 3.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.4 2.2 6.4 0.8 1.1 2.2 0.7 6.1 3.8 .609 .111
Timofey Mozgov DEN 687 5.2 10.0 0.0 0.0 2.0 3.0 2.8 6.6 1.2 0.8 2.2 2.8 4.5 12.5 .526 .684
Louis Amundson IND 753 4.3 9.9 0.0 0.0 1.7 3.9 4.5 6.1 0.7 1.3 2.1 2.2 6.0 10.2 .430 .427
Earl Clark ORL 559 3.3 9.0 0.0 0.0 1.4 1.9 2.3 5.7 1.2 0.8 2.1 1.6 4.6 7.9 .367 .724
Tyrus Thomas CHA 1013 4.3 11.6 0.0 0.1 2.2 2.9 1.7 5.4 1.2 1.3 2.1 1.9 5.1 10.8 .367 .333 .759
Elton Brand PHI 1732 6.0 12.1 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.4 3.0 5.9 2.0 1.2 2.0 1.4 3.7 13.7 .494 .000 .733
Andrew Bynum LAL 2112 7.6 13.6 0.0 0.1 4.0 5.8 3.3 8.8 1.4 0.5 2.0 2.6 1.8 19.1 .558 .200 .692
Dwight Howard ORL 2070 7.2 12.6 0.0 0.1 4.9 9.9 3.5 10.2 1.8 1.4 2.0 3.0 2.8 19.4 .573 .000 .491
Chris Kaman NOH 1372 7.0 15.7 0.0 0.0 2.2 2.8 2.3 7.2 2.7 0.7 2.0 3.4 2.8 16.2 .446 .785
Tim Duncan SAS 1634 8.0 16.1 0.0 0.1 3.8 5.5 2.4 9.0 2.9 0.8 1.9 2.1 2.2 19.7 .492 .000 .695
Spencer Hawes PHI 920 6.1 12.5 0.1 0.5 1.6 2.2 3.1 7.5 3.8 0.6 1.9 2.2 3.9 13.9 .489 .250 .727
James Johnson TOR 1561 5.4 11.9 0.4 1.4 1.9 2.7 1.7 5.0 2.8 1.6 1.9 2.3 4.1 13.1 .450 .317 .704
Kosta Koufos DEN 792 5.2 8.7 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.5 4.3 7.4 0.7 1.1 1.9 1.5 4.4 12.0 .599 .600
Darko Milicic MIN 472 4.5 9.9 0.0 0.0 1.2 2.8 2.7 4.7 1.3 0.7 1.9 2.4 4.5 10.2 .454 .432
Nazr Mohammed OKC 692 4.1 8.8 0.0 0.1 0.7 1.2 3.1 5.8 0.7 1.0 1.9 1.4 5.3 8.9 .467 .000 .565
Ben Wallace DET 980 1.2 3.2 0.0 0.1 0.6 1.7 3.0 6.9 1.6 1.7 1.9 1.2 2.2 3.1 .395 .250 .340
Marc Gasol MEM 2370 5.4 11.2 0.0 0.2 3.6 4.8 1.8 7.0 3.1 0.9 1.8 1.8 3.1 14.5 .482 .083 .748
Jordan Hill TOT 551 5.4 10.8 0.0 0.2 2.0 3.1 4.0 8.2 1.0 0.9 1.8 2.0 4.6 12.7 .497 .000 .638
Al Jefferson UTA 2075 9.0 18.2 0.0 0.1 2.4 3.1 2.3 7.8 2.3 0.8 1.8 1.1 2.7 20.3 .492 .250 .774
Josh Smith ATL 2329 7.8 17.0 0.4 1.7 3.1 5.0 2.1 7.7 4.0 1.4 1.8 2.5 2.7 19.2 .458 .257 .630
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Derrick Favors UTA 1376 5.8 11.6 0.0 0.0 3.3 5.1 4.1 7.0 1.1 1.0 1.7 2.7 3.8 14.9 .499 .649
Francisco Garcia SAC 798 3.9 10.3 1.7 5.9 1.1 1.4 0.5 4.0 1.4 1.6 1.7 1.0 3.3 10.6 .376 .290 .800
Marcin Gortat PHO 2114 7.3 13.1 0.0 0.0 2.8 4.3 3.2 8.1 1.0 0.8 1.7 1.5 2.4 17.3 .555 .000 .649
Brendan Haywood DAL 1146 3.7 7.2 0.0 0.0 1.4 3.0 4.4 5.8 0.6 0.8 1.7 1.4 3.8 8.8 .518 .469
Joakim Noah CHI 1945 4.6 9.1 0.0 0.0 2.9 3.8 4.5 7.2 3.0 0.8 1.7 1.7 3.0 12.1 .508 .000 .748
Tyson Chandler NYK 2061 4.2 6.2 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.5 3.7 7.0 1.0 1.0 1.6 1.8 3.2 12.2 .679 .000 .689
Kenneth Faried DEN 1037 6.3 10.7 0.0 0.0 3.8 5.7 4.9 7.3 1.2 1.2 1.6 1.9 4.0 16.4 .586 .665
Amir Johnson TOR 1553 4.5 7.9 0.0 0.1 1.3 1.9 3.5 6.0 1.8 0.8 1.6 2.2 4.8 10.5 .576 .400 .690
Kenyon Martin LAC 940 3.7 8.4 0.1 0.5 0.8 2.1 1.9 5.1 0.7 1.7 1.6 1.2 3.9 8.3 .441 .231 .370
Jason Smith NOH 947 6.9 13.2 0.0 0.3 1.3 1.8 2.7 4.7 1.3 0.8 1.6 1.5 3.9 15.1 .520 .111 .702
Tristan Thompson CLE 1424 4.9 11.2 0.0 0.1 2.7 4.9 4.7 5.1 0.7 0.7 1.6 2.0 3.4 12.5 .439 .000 .552
Gustavo Ayon NOH 1088 4.6 8.6 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.1 2.8 5.9 2.4 1.8 1.5 1.5 3.9 10.6 .536 .000 .619
Channing Frye PHO 1669 5.5 13.2 2.0 5.7 1.6 1.8 1.5 6.6 1.9 0.9 1.5 1.4 3.8 14.5 .416 .346 .890
Travis Outlaw SAC 500 4.3 12.6 1.2 4.3 2.2 3.3 1.4 3.0 1.2 1.4 1.5 1.4 2.4 12.0 .343 .267 .674
Kendrick Perkins OKC 1744 2.6 5.4 0.0 0.0 1.5 2.3 2.5 6.3 1.6 0.5 1.5 2.4 3.9 6.8 .489 .652
Tiago Splitter SAS 1121 6.8 11.0 0.0 0.0 4.0 5.8 3.0 6.8 2.1 0.7 1.5 2.8 4.3 17.6 .618 .691
Nikola Vucevic PHI 812 5.8 12.9 0.1 0.4 0.8 1.5 3.9 7.0 1.4 0.9 1.5 1.5 4.9 12.5 .450 .375 .529

TOP NBA DEFENDERS CHART 3 OF 3 >>> TOP THIEVES / FAST BREAKERS in 2011-2012 (complete regular season)
Each year QFTR publishes Real Player Ratings for every player in the NBA who has played at least 300 minutes. Real Player Ratings are comprehensive player ratings that are very carefully designed and quality controlled. Starting in 2012, the Ratings are supplemented by seven per 36 minutes charts which show player performance in seven of the very most important performance measures, all of which are components of Real Player Ratings (but there are other components that go into Real Player Ratings). These charts are stationed on the home page at all times. This is most likely the only place on the Internet where this key player information is shown in this optimal way.

Here we have the best thieves / fast breakers of the NBA in 2011-2012 as indicated by steals per 36 minutes playing time. This is "STL" in the chart. All items shown in the chart other than the percentages and the minutes played are per 36 minutes, which is much smarter to use than per game numbers.

For this and all the other charts, a minimum of 300 minutes of playing time is required. Only players who made at least 1.7 steals per 36 minutes are shown here.

This is one of the seven "7/36 Charts". A short user guide for these is found in this Report.

Here now are how the best thieves / fast breakers in the NBA in 2011-2012 rated and ranked:
Player               Tm   MP   FG  FGA  3P 3PA  FT FTA ORB DRB  AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS  FG%  3P%  FT%
Tony Allen MEM 1525 5.0 10.6 0.2 0.6 3.3 4.1 2.3 3.2 1.9 2.5 0.8 2.2 3.4 13.4 .469 .308 .800
Sundiata Gaines NJN 793 4.6 12.3 1.3 3.7 2.7 4.4 1.2 3.7 5.7 2.5 0.1 2.4 2.6 13.2 .376 .341 .615
Chris Paul LAC 2181 7.0 14.7 1.3 3.5 4.3 5.0 0.7 2.8 9.0 2.5 0.1 2.0 2.3 19.6 .478 .371 .861
Eric Bledsoe LAC 464 3.8 9.8 0.5 2.3 2.2 3.4 1.7 3.3 5.1 2.4 1.1 3.6 4.5 10.2 .389 .200 .636
Ronnie Price PHO 517 3.4 9.1 0.9 3.1 1.4 1.7 1.3 2.6 4.7 2.4 0.2 3.2 5.0 9.1 .377 .295 .800
Mike Conley MEM 2174 4.9 11.3 1.0 2.6 2.3 2.6 0.4 2.2 6.7 2.3 0.2 2.1 2.2 13.0 .433 .377 .861
Ricky Rubio MIN 1404 3.6 10.0 0.8 2.4 3.2 4.0 0.5 3.8 8.6 2.3 0.2 3.4 2.5 11.2 .357 .340 .803
Baron Davis NYK 595 4.1 11.1 1.6 5.1 1.0 1.5 0.8 2.6 8.2 2.1 0.2 4.6 3.7 10.8 .370 .306 .667
Jason Kidd DAL 1379 2.6 7.1 2.1 5.8 0.6 0.7 0.4 4.8 6.9 2.1 0.3 2.4 2.2 7.8 .363 .354 .786
Jeremy Lin NYK 940 6.5 14.7 0.9 2.9 5.6 7.0 0.7 3.4 8.3 2.1 0.3 4.8 3.0 19.6 .446 .320 .798
Iman Shumpert NYK 1705 4.5 11.3 1.0 3.3 1.8 2.3 0.9 3.0 3.5 2.1 0.2 2.3 3.7 11.9 .401 .306 .798
Corey Brewer DEN 1287 5.6 13.0 0.9 3.6 2.5 3.6 1.2 3.0 2.5 2.0 0.5 1.6 3.2 14.7 .434 .260 .692
Paul George IND 1958 5.2 11.7 1.7 4.3 2.7 3.3 1.0 5.8 2.9 2.0 0.7 2.2 3.5 14.7 .440 .385 .802
Kawhi Leonard SAS 1534 4.7 9.5 1.0 2.6 1.6 2.1 2.4 5.2 1.6 2.0 0.6 1.0 2.1 11.9 .493 .376 .773
Paul Millsap UTA 2100 7.3 14.8 0.1 0.5 3.5 4.4 3.1 6.6 2.6 2.0 0.9 1.9 3.8 18.2 .495 .226 .792
J.R. Smith NYK 967 6.1 15.1 2.5 7.2 1.5 2.0 1.1 4.0 3.1 2.0 0.2 1.7 3.2 16.2 .407 .347 .709
Delonte West DAL 1060 5.6 12.2 0.9 2.6 2.1 2.4 0.4 3.0 4.7 2.0 0.4 2.6 2.3 14.3 .461 .355 .886
Mario Chalmers MIA 1825 4.4 9.8 2.0 5.1 1.6 2.0 0.3 3.1 4.4 1.9 0.2 2.8 3.3 12.4 .448 .388 .792
Stephen Curry GSW 732 7.1 14.6 2.7 6.0 1.9 2.3 0.7 3.6 6.8 1.9 0.4 3.2 3.0 18.8 .490 .455 .809
Carlos Delfino MIL 1537 4.3 10.6 2.0 5.6 0.9 1.1 0.5 4.4 2.9 1.9 0.2 1.5 2.3 11.4 .402 .360 .792
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Earl Watson UTA 1033 1.9 5.6 0.3 1.8 1.1 1.6 1.0 3.2 7.6 1.9 0.8 3.0 3.7 5.2 .338 .192 .674
Trevor Ariza NOH 1350 4.5 10.7 0.8 2.3 2.1 2.7 1.1 4.6 3.6 1.8 0.7 2.0 1.9 11.8 .417 .333 .775
Gustavo Ayon NOH 1088 4.6 8.6 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.1 2.8 5.9 2.4 1.8 1.5 1.5 3.9 10.6 .536 .000 .619
Rodrigue Beaubois DAL 1151 5.9 13.9 1.2 4.1 1.8 2.2 0.6 4.1 4.8 1.8 0.9 2.2 3.1 14.8 .422 .288 .841
Reggie Jackson OKC 501 3.7 11.4 0.9 4.5 1.8 2.1 1.0 2.8 5.1 1.8 0.1 2.6 2.2 10.1 .321 .210 .862
LeBron James MIA 2326 9.6 18.1 0.8 2.3 6.0 7.8 1.5 6.2 6.0 1.8 0.8 3.3 1.5 26.0 .531 .362 .771
Nate Robinson GSW 1192 6.2 14.6 2.0 5.5 2.8 3.4 0.5 2.6 7.0 1.8 0.1 2.3 3.6 17.2 .424 .365 .832
Walker Russell DET 357 3.3 9.6 0.4 1.3 1.4 2.2 0.7 1.9 5.8 1.8 0.1 3.3 2.9 8.5 .347 .308 .636
Larry Sanders MIL 643 4.7 10.3 0.0 0.1 1.0 2.1 3.5 5.5 1.8 1.8 4.3 2.4 7.4 10.4 .457 .000 .474
Chris Singleton WAS 1431 2.9 7.8 1.1 3.2 0.8 1.1 1.1 4.8 1.2 1.8 0.8 1.0 4.4 7.7 .372 .346 .682
Dwyane Wade MIA 1625 9.2 18.5 0.3 1.2 5.2 6.6 1.6 3.6 5.0 1.8 1.4 2.9 2.4 24.0 .497 .268 .791
DeMarcus Cousins SAC 1950 8.3 18.4 0.0 0.3 4.8 6.9 4.9 8.1 1.9 1.7 1.4 3.1 4.7 21.4 .448 .143 .702
Goran Dragic HOU 1752 5.7 12.3 1.4 4.2 3.1 3.9 1.1 2.4 7.2 1.7 0.2 3.2 3.4 15.9 .462 .337 .805
Andre Iguodala PHI 2209 4.7 10.3 1.2 3.1 2.0 3.2 0.9 5.3 5.5 1.7 0.5 1.9 1.5 12.6 .454 .394 .617
Kyle Lowry HOU 1510 5.0 12.2 1.9 5.0 4.1 4.7 0.9 4.2 7.4 1.7 0.3 3.1 3.2 16.0 .409 .374 .864
Rajon Rondo BOS 1957 4.7 10.5 0.2 0.8 2.0 3.3 1.1 3.6 11.4 1.7 0.1 3.6 1.8 11.6 .448 .238 .597
Lance Stephenson IND 442 3.8 10.2 0.3 2.4 0.7 1.4 1.0 3.3 3.7 1.7 0.4 2.9 2.4 8.6 .376 .133 .471
Greg Stiemsma BOS 766 3.1 5.7 0.0 0.0 1.4 1.9 2.3 6.1 1.3 1.7 4.0 1.6 6.8 7.6 .545 .707
Jeff Teague ATL 2183 5.3 11.1 0.8 2.5 2.3 3.1 0.3 2.3 5.3 1.7 0.6 2.2 2.4 13.7 .476 .342 .757
Ben Wallace DET 980 1.2 3.2 0.0 0.1 0.6 1.7 3.0 6.9 1.6 1.7 1.9 1.2 2.2 3.1 .395 .250 .340
Player Tm MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%
Russell Westbrook OKC 2331 8.9 19.6 1.0 3.0 5.3 6.4 1.5 3.2 5.6 1.7 0.3 3.7 2.3 24.1 .457 .316 .823

From day one we knew that QFTR would never be a hang out place, a place where people come to comment on basketball news and blogs and what not. For one thing, we knew it could never possibly be even a moderate traffic Site (let alone a high traffic Site) regardless of the quality or quantity of basketball content loaded on to it. (It took years and about 15 books worth of content just to go from zero traffic to low traffic). Although you wouldn't expect it to be all that popular, it seems that a serious and unique basketball Site has even a lower potential audience than one would expect.

For another thing, QFTR is too serious for the quick little comments that are a dime a dozen at basketball Sites and blogs around the Internet. And most people who comment like to make only short little comments.

And of course it is well known that only a tiny percentage of blogs get more than a tiny number of comments and that essentially all of the blogs that do get comments are part of blog networks and/or they are run by celebrities.

And there are other reasons but those are the main ones.

The truth though is that your QFTR producer never had the resources to moderate and / or to participate in discussions at QFTR. Before there was a QFTR we participated in forums, and for about 18 months after there was a QFTR we still posted at a couple of forums, but we had to discontinue due to lack of time and because posting at forums was useless for getting traffic to QFTR that would return for future visits. As mentioned above in "Your Ball, Take Your Best Shot, Option 3," QFTR has only roughly 1/10 of the time it would like for producing content and for getting the background work done. So we are not even close to having the time to deal with comments that would go directly onto QFTR. So actually, we are glad that there has been very little interest.

Having said that, until January 2012 there was an option for commenting on Reports etc.. There was a page called "QFTR Discussions" where all comments on all Reports would appear in one place. These were going to be more serious and lengthy comments than the ones you see around the Internet.

Along with the discussion page there was to be an "open blog" called "My Quest for the Ring". Anyone who demonstrated the ability to make important, interesting, and/or useful contributions toward explaining how playoff games are won and lost would be given the keys and would be allowed to post whatever whenever. These would be full posts and not just comments. This would be a collaboration blog.

Both Discussions and My Quest for the Ring were nice, creative ideas, but there were no takers because of some combination of the following:

--Hardly anyone is qualified to discuss basketball at a high level.
--No one who is qualified has the time.
--QFTR traffic has been too low and/or it has the wrong people visiting, so therefore those who might have posted have never seen the option.

Although all of the links to these pages are removed from the QFTR home page as of January 2012 (except for the ones just above) the pages themselves are not being taken down. So if anyone (and it can be just one single person) is interested in posting to either of these Sites, please send an email to:
thequestforthering1 @ gmail dot com
[Remove the spaces and replace "dot" with an actual (.)

If even one person is interested and posts at either of those sites, we will restore all of the links that were removed.

RICKY RUBIO, MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES POINT GUARD

RICKY RUBIO, MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES POINT GUARD

>>>I WANT TO STICK WITH THE WAY OTHER SITES PRESENT POSTS
Due to the number of, uniqueness of, and importance of the many other home page features we have, only one Report loads at a time, currently the one just above. To see the next Report (which would be the one that came out just before the one above) on this home page, click "Older Posts" that is at the very bottom of the Report showing above, just above the section header "Your Ball: Take Your Best Shot".

>>ALTERNATIVE HOME PAGES
There are three home pages, all of which have all of the Reports but which have completely different features appearing on the sidebar and below the one Report that is shown at a time. These pages have been designed so that they fully load in about 10 seconds (no more super long load times we used to be known for.)

HOME PAGE A: ALL REPORTS, READERS CONTAINING REPORTS 1-100, AND UNIQUE FEATURES
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HOME PAGE C: ALL REPORTS, READERS CONTAINING REPORTS 1-100, AND UNIQUE FEATURES

>>REPORT READERS: Complete freedom to rapidly choose and read what you need or want to read. The latest 40 Reports are found near the top of all three of the primary home pages (linked to just above) while Reports #41-#100 are found in three separate readers placed at various points down the page on all three primary home pages.

>>EXPRESS VERSION: Every Single Report but no Features: a Fast Loading Page: Click Here



>>FAST BREAK VERSION: The Latest 100 Reports via Report Readers Only; no Features, a Fast Loading Page: Click Here

>>QUEST ARCHIVE HOME PAGES--REPORT ARCHIVES AND A SMALL NUMBER OF CLASSIC FEATURES THAT WON'T FIT ON OTHER HOME PAGES
QUEST 4: REPORTS 101-200
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>>FEATURES ONLY HOME PAGES: NO REPORTS, JUST FEATURES THAT WE CAN'T FIT ANYWHERE ELSE
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>>COMPLETE TITLE INDEX: : A Complete Report Title Index, with Express Version Links to all Reports

>>LATEST 25 Reports: Direct links to the latest 25 Reports (with no truncated titles as you find with the poorly designed Google archive). This is located near the very bottom of this page.

>>GOOGLE ARCHIVE you will find this, with Reports shown by week not very far below.

>>I'M NEW AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WANT TO GO: Welcome to the Real Zone. Simply browse the page and see for yourself what is here. You will not be disappointed.

>>OR YOU CAN DO A CUSTOM GOOGLE SEARCH OF THE 20 BOOKS AND COUNTING CONTAINED ON THIS SITE>>>>>

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TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT HOW LONG QUEST FOR THE RING HAS BEEN KEEPING IT REAL >>>

The above shows you in two different ways the exact amount of time since The Quest for the Ring began to completely explain how the Quest is won, while having as much fun as possible at the expense of basketball pretenders and player haters. The first panel shows how long it has been in each of seven units. The second panel shows how long it has been in the more usual "remainder" way.

QUEST FOR THE RING SOMETIMES GOES INTO HIATUS
Regardless of any temporary unavoidable absences, the Quest is in this project to explain in detail for the very long term--indefinitely, for many, many, many years ahead. At this writing we have the equivalent of 15 basketball books under our belt and we plan on doing dozens more. Count on us being right where basketball is at, which is here, actually.

GOOGLE ARCHIVE



QUEST FOR THE RING USER GUIDE

QUEST FOR THE RING USER GUIDE: YOU CAN QUICKLY LOCATE AND GET THE SITE INFORMATION YOU NEED OR WANT RIGHT HERE






WELCOME TO THE QUEST--THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT HERE

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REAL ZONE
This is one of the most serious basketball sites on the internet, focusing on how and why playoff games and NBA Championships are won and lost. We also love to take comedy and music breaks, but not every day.

WELCOME TO THE QUEST FOR THE RING (QFTR). YOU HAVE LEFT THE HYPE ZONE AND HAVE ARRIVED IN THE REAL ZONE. Please check any rose colored glasses at the door. The Hype Zone that you most likely just came from is where you can find out about the personalities and the styles and how popular they are and what they are up to lately. The QFTR Real Zone is where we DO NOT think personalities and styles and how popular or unpopular they are things to waste time on just for ratings or traffic.

Instead of hype, here we post as much truth about how NBA playoff games and Championships are won as we can 365 days a year and at at any hour of the day or night. Please have a productive visit, and a nice trip back to the Hype Zone when your visit is over.


UNIQUE SITE DESIGN
The Quest is organized in a completely different way from what you are used to on the Internet. We have combined the best features of the blog and the conventional web site formats, the latter being the norm for large organizations. However, since we do not like the idea of using flash to "wow" visitors, we do not use flash except within video and other discrete components. So we are state of the art in terms of expanding the power of visitors to get exactly what they want very quickly, but we do not have the latest flash gadgetry just to "keep up with the Joneses".

More broadly, you will find that Quest for the Ring never seeks to keep up with the Joneses, simply because the Joneses never had the nerve and the intelligence to do what we do.

Unlike many Internet operations QFTR is never going to quit due to low traffic; we have learned over the last decade that traffic is about 95% determined by variables completely out of our control. The 5% that we do control is not enough to change traffic in any significant way. The corporate, hype, and porn sites get all the easy (and sleazy!) traffic. QFTR gets a relatively small amount of traffic but how could it possibly be otherwise? QFTR gets high quality traffic from serious, intelligent people (who are in limited supply) and that is exactly how it was inevitably going to be.

2009: A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION COMES TO QUEST
The QFTR Home Page consists of numerous types of content, organized carefully into clearly labelled sections. Features can be any educational and / or entertaining basketball content you can think of, including everything from music players to videos to photos to breaking NBA news readers to top teams performance breakdown pages.

Quest for the Ring has a world class link system for easy access to many of the Worlds' most important basketball resources. (We don't give a damn that all the outbound links might hurt our placement in search results, because we are not going to cheat visitors just to get more "fly by night" visitors.) But the Quest visitor does not HAVE to hunt for links to have an intelligent and entertaining experience because QFTR is a massive resource in and of itself.

THERE MUST BE FIFTY WAYS TO READ REPORTS [AS PAUL SIMON SANG YEARS AGO, LOL]
Well, maybe not fifty, but there are close to ten ways to find out about, select, and read Quest Reports! The standard, traditional blog presentation is available as one of the many ways to choose, access, and read reports. On the Home Page, only one report loads in the traditional format in order to keep this page as quick loading as possible. See the "Total Freedom of Navigation" section not far below the main Report you have loaded for complete details about how to find, choose, and read reports.

THE QUEST USER GUIDE VERSUS THE MERE ABOUT PAGE
Other sites very often have undeveloped and limited in scope "about pages" which is usually all they have for what we call a "User Guide". The QFTR User Guide is a little blog in itself with several dozen articles explaining aspects of the Site and how you can benefit from them. This approach is a vast improvement, quantitatively and qualitatively, over a mere "about page" While many other sites don't help their visitors to make the best use of the content, we do. Also, the User Guide is chock loaded with invitations to visitors to participate in all kinds of ways, including for example advertising for free, link exchange, and getting a team site supported by Quest. You can access User Guide articles either by visiting the User Guide dedicated page or by locating the list of User Guide articles right on the primary QFTR Home Page.

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QUEST FOR THE RING VIDEOS--The primary Quest video page with video juke boxes for all 30 teams

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QUEST FOR THE RING PRIMARY HOME PAGE B--A few key video players are here

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MOST RECENT LEAGUE WIDE REAL PLAYER RATINGS

Note: This is generally a once a year, end of season Report. For many teams and players, more recent ratings are often available.

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON


POSITION AND TEAM CODES
In the Real Player and related ratings shown for the League, two codes follow each players' name (and before his rating). The first code tells you the players' team and the second one tells you his position.

TEAM CODES
ATLA Atlanta Hawks
BOST Boston Celtics
CHAR Charlotte Bobcats
CHIC Chicago Bulls
CLEV Cleveland Cavaliers
DALL Dallas Mavericks
DENV Denver Nuggets
DETR Detroit Pistons
GOLS Golden State Warriors
HOUS Houston Rockets
INDI Indiana Pacers
LACL Los Angeles Clippers
LALK Los Angeles Lakers
MEMP Memphis Grizzlies
MIAM Miami Heat
MILW Milwaukee Bucks
MINN Minnesota Timberwolves
NJRS New Jersey Nets
NORL New Orleans Hornets
NWYR New York Knicks
OKLA Oklahoma Thunder
ORLA Orlando Magic
PHIL Philadelphia 76'ers
PHNX Phoenix Suns
PORT Portland Trailblazers
SACR Sacramento Kings
SANA San Antonio Spurs
TORO Toronto Raptors
UTAH Utah Jazz
WASH Washington Wizards

POSITION CODES
PG Point Guard
SG Shooting Guard
SF Small Forward
PF Power Forward
C Center

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Preferably should not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Generally should not start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

NBA REAL PLAYER RATINGS
2009-10 REGULAR SEASON

--Shows the real quality of players
--Includes all tracked actions and also includes untracked or hidden defending
--The average Real Player Rating for all players who play 300 minutes or more is about .700.
--All players who have played at least 300 minutes are included here and in all other ratings to follow in coming days

MAJOR HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
1 LeBron James CLEV SF 1.382
2 Tim Duncan SANA PF 1.254
3 Chris Paul NORL PG 1.202
4 Dwight Howard ORLA C 1.121
5 Andrew Bogut MILW C 1.112

HISTORIC SUPERSTARS
6 Steve Nash PHNX PG 1.095
7 Jason Kidd DALL PG 1.092
8 Rajon Rondo BOST PG 1.084
9 Deron Williams UTAH PG 1.076
10 Dwyane Wade MIAM SG 1.075
11 Marcus Camby LACL C 1.071
12 Pau Gasol LALK PF 1.065
13 Greg Oden PORT C 1.060
14 Kevin Durant OKLA SF 1.051
15 Dirk Nowitzki DALL PF 1.034
16 Josh Smith ATLA SF 1.033
17 Kevin Garnett BOST PF 1.033
18 Manu Ginobili SANA SG 1.023
19 Kobe Bryant LALK SG 1.005

SUPERSTARS
20 Carlos Boozer UTAH PF 0.994
21 Lamar Odom LALK PF 0.982
22 Andrei Kirilenko UTAH SF 0.976
23 Chris Bosh TORO PF 0.972
24 David Lee NWYR C 0.971
25 Al Horford ATLA C 0.970
26 Marcus Camby PORT C 0.967
27 Jameer Nelson ORLA PG 0.959
28 Joakim Noah CHIC C 0.955
29 John Salmons MILW SF 0.937
30 Andrew Bynum LALK C 0.936
31 Troy Murphy INDI PF 0.934
32 Kevin Love MINN PF 0.934
33 Anderson Varejao CLEV C 0.933
34 Brendan Haywood DALL C 0.929
35 Vince Carter ORLA SG 0.928
36 Gerald Wallace CHAR SF 0.918
37 Sergio Rodriguez SACR PG 0.908
38 Tyrus Thomas CHIC PF 0.904
39 Derrick Rose CHIC PG 0.903

STARS
40 Baron Davis LACL PG 0.899
41 Russell Westbrook OKLA PG 0.897
42 Zach Randolph MEMP PF 0.885
43 Danny Granger INDI SF 0.885
44 Marc Gasol MEMP C 0.885
45 Joe Johnson ATLA SG 0.883
46 Chauncey Billups DENV PG 0.883
47 Roy Hibbert INDI C 0.880
48 Ben Wallace DETR C 0.877
49 Andre Miller PORT PG 0.874
50 Carmelo Anthony DENV SF 0.874
51 Brandon Jennings MILW PG 0.870
52 Tyrus Thomas CHAR PF 0.870
53 A.J. Price INDI PG 0.868
54 Paul Millsap UTAH PF 0.866
55 Craig Smith LACL PF 0.865
56 Samuel Dalembert PHIL C 0.864
57 Andre Iguodala PHIL SG 0.858
58 Raymond Felton CHAR PG 0.857
59 Delonte West CLEV SG 0.856
60 Al Jefferson MINN C 0.856
61 Eric Maynor OKLA PG 0.856
62 Serge Ibaka OKLA PF 0.855
63 Nene Hilario DENV C 0.852
64 Chris Andersen DENV PF 0.849
65 Shaquille O'Neal CLEV C 0.842
66 Brandon Roy PORT SG 0.842
67 Ryan Anderson ORLA PF 0.840
68 Antonio McDyess SANA PF 0.839
69 Tony Parker SANA PG 0.837
70 Paul Pierce BOST SF 0.836
71 Mo Williams CLEV PG 0.835
72 Kyle Lowry HOUS PG 0.835
73 Ersan Ilyasova MILW SF 0.828
74 Amare Stoudemire PHNX PF 0.828
75 Luke Ridnour MILW PG 0.827
76 Erick Dampier DALL C 0.826
77 Tyreke Evans SACR PG 0.825
78 Andris Biedrins GOLS C 0.825
79 Kyle Korver UTAH SG 0.824
80 Anthony Randolph GOLS PF 0.820

VERY GOOD PLAYERS / SOLID STARTERS
81 Eric Maynor UTAH PG 0.819
82 Carlos Arroyo MIAM PG 0.819
83 Antawn Jamison CLEV PF 0.819
84 Nazr Mohammed CHAR C 0.818
85 Luol Deng CHIC SF 0.817
86 Dorell Wright MIAM SG 0.817
87 LaMarcus Aldridge PORT PF 0.817
88 Carl Landry HOUS PF 0.816
89 Luis Scola HOUS PF 0.816
90 Nick Collison OKLA PF 0.812
91 Carlos Delfino MILW SG 0.809
92 Kendrick Perkins BOST C 0.807
93 Jermaine O'Neal MIAM C 0.805
94 Nate Robinson NWYR PG 0.804
95 Goran Dragic PHNX PG 0.803
96 Mike Bibby ATLA PG 0.803
97 Stephen Curry GOLS PG 0.803
98 Mehmet Okur UTAH C 0.800
99 Jose Calderon TORO PG 0.797
100 Jason Terry DALL SG 0.791
101 Ronnie Price UTAH PG 0.784
102 DeJuan Blair SANA PF 0.784
103 Chris Kaman LACL C 0.783
104 Shaun Livingston WASH PG 0.783
105 Joel Przybilla PORT C 0.782
106 David West NORL PF 0.781
107 John Salmons CHIC SF 0.776
108 Matt Barnes ORLA SF 0.775
109 Darren Collison NORL PG 0.775
110 Ronny Turiaf GOLS C 0.774
111 Udonis Haslem MIAM PF 0.774
112 Shawn Marion DALL SF 0.772
113 Jason Williams ORLA PG 0.771
114 Keyon Dooling NJRS PG 0.771
115 Andray Blatche WASH C 0.770
116 James Harden OKLA SG 0.770
117 Brook Lopez NJRS C 0.770
118 Ray Allen BOST SG 0.770
119 Amir Johnson TORO SF 0.769
120 Ty Lawson DENV PG 0.768
121 Beno Udrih SACR PG 0.768
122 Chuck Hayes HOUS PF 0.765
123 Matt Bonner SANA PF 0.763
124 Reggie Evans TORO PF 0.763
125 Gilbert Arenas WASH PG 0.760

MAJOR ROLE PLAYERS / GOOD ENOUGH TO START
126 Zydrunas Ilgauskas CLEV C 0.758
127 Rasheed Wallace BOST PF 0.757
128 Lou Williams PHIL SG 0.756
129 Stephen Jackson CHAR SF 0.754
130 Dan Gadzuric MILW C 0.754
131 Jamario Moon CLEV SF 0.754
132 Ron Artest LALK SF 0.752
133 Rodney Stuckey DETR PG 0.749
134 Shelden Williams BOST PF 0.748
135 Oleksiy Pecherov MINN C 0.748
136 Aaron Brooks HOUS PG 0.747
137 Boris Diaw CHAR PF 0.746
138 C.J. Watson GOLS PG 0.746
139 Brendan Haywood WASH C 0.744
140 Emeka Okafor NORL C 0.742
141 Taj Gibson CHIC PF 0.741
142 J.R. Smith DENV SG 0.738
143 Mike Miller WASH SF 0.732
144 Channing Frye PHNX C 0.731
145 Louis Amundson PHNX PF 0.731
146 Elton Brand PHIL PF 0.726
147 D.J. Mbenga LALK C 0.725
148 Tayshaun Prince DETR SF 0.724
149 Francisco Garcia SACR SG 0.724
150 Tyler Hansbrough INDI PF 0.724
151 Trevor Ariza HOUS SG 0.723
152 Allen Iverson PHIL SG 0.722
153 Rashard Lewis ORLA PF 0.721
154 Richard Jefferson SANA SF 0.721
155 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute MILW SF 0.721
156 Jamal Crawford ATLA SG 0.721
157 Brad Miller CHIC C 0.720
158 Josh Boone NJRS C 0.718
159 Jason Richardson PHNX SG 0.718
160 Sebastian Telfair LACL PG 0.717
161 Marvin Williams ATLA PF 0.716
162 David Andersen HOUS C 0.715
163 Caron Butler DALL SF 0.715
164 Michael Beasley MIAM PF 0.714
165 George Hill SANA PG 0.713
166 Ronnie Brewer UTAH SG 0.712
167 D.J. Augustin CHAR PG 0.712
168 Monta Ellis GOLS PG 0.711
169 Sean May SACR PF 0.710
170 Anthony Tolliver GOLS PF 0.709
171 Kenyon Martin DENV PF 0.709
172 Tyson Chandler CHAR C 0.709
173 Rodrigue Beaubois DALL PG 0.707
174 Stephen Jackson GOLS SF 0.704
175 Shane Battier HOUS SF 0.703
176 Stephen Graham CHAR SF 0.702
177 Mike Conley MEMP PG 0.702
178 Earl Watson INDI PG 0.701
179 T.J. Ford INDI PG 0.700

GOOD ROLE PLAYERS / OFTEN GOOD 6TH MAN PLAYERS
180 Ramon Sessions MINN PG 0.699
181 Corey Maggette GOLS SF 0.699
182 Marcin Gortat ORLA PF 0.698
183 Terrence Williams NJRS SG 0.698
184 Jarrett Jack TORO PG 0.698
185 James Singleton WASH SF 0.696
186 JaVale McGee WASH C 0.694
187 Jose Juan Barea DALL PG 0.694
188 Marcus Thornton NORL SG 0.693
189 Daequan Cook MIAM SG 0.691
190 Jordan Farmar LALK PG 0.689
191 Kirk Hinrich CHIC PG 0.689
192 Carl Landry SACR PF 0.689
193 Shannon Brown LALK PG 0.687
194 Anthony Carter DENV PG 0.686
195 Jason Thompson SACR PF 0.686
196 Mike Dunleavy INDI SF 0.686
197 Robin Lopez PHNX C 0.684
198 Spencer Hawes SACR C 0.680
199 Rudy Fernandez PORT SG 0.678
200 Drew Gooden LACL PF 0.678
201 Steve Blake LACL PG 0.677
202 Bobby Simmons NJRS SF 0.676
203 Larry Hughes NWYR SG 0.675
204 Jerry Stackhouse MILW SF 0.675
205 Quentin Richardson MIAM SG 0.675
206 Rudy Gay MEMP SF 0.675
207 Darko Milicic MINN C 0.674
208 Drew Gooden DALL PF 0.674
209 Reggie Williams GOLS SF 0.673
210 Ronald Murray CHAR SG 0.671
211 Grant Hill PHNX SF 0.669
212 Nate Robinson BOST PG 0.668
213 Travis Outlaw LACL SF 0.668
214 Steve Blake PORT PG 0.667
215 Devin Harris NJRS PG 0.665
216 Antawn Jamison WASH PF 0.665
217 Danilo Gallinari NWYR SF 0.664
218 Wilson Chandler NWYR SF 0.664
219 Gerald Henderson CHAR SG 0.664
220 Tony Allen BOST SG 0.663
221 Kyrylo Fesenko UTAH C 0.662
222 Anthony Morrow GOLS SG 0.661
223 Jordan Hill HOUS PF 0.661
224 Jared Dudley PHNX SF 0.660
225 Daniel Gibson CLEV PG 0.660
226 Jeff Green OKLA PF 0.659
227 Josh McRoberts INDI PF 0.659
228 Anthony Johnson ORLA PG 0.658
229 J.J. Redick ORLA SG 0.658
230 Al Harrington NWYR PF 0.655
231 Luther Head INDI PG 0.654
232 Nicolas Batum PORT SF 0.653
233 Theo Ratliff CHAR C 0.650
234 Mario Chalmers MIAM PG 0.648
235 Brandon Bass ORLA PF 0.648
236 Kris Humphries NJRS PF 0.646
237 Chris Duhon NWYR PG 0.643
238 Nenad Krstic OKLA C 0.642
239 Kris Humphries DALL PF 0.642

SATISFACTORY ROLE PLAYERS / USUALLY DO NOT START
240 Rasho Nesterovic TORO C 0.637
241 Hedo Turkoglu TORO SF 0.635
242 Johan Petro DENV C 0.635
243 Randy Foye WASH PG 0.634
244 Jrue Holiday PHIL PG 0.633
245 Mickael Pietrus ORLA SG 0.631
246 Jared Jeffries NWYR PF 0.627
247 Leandro Barbosa PHNX SG 0.626
248 Joel Anthony MIAM C 0.624
249 O.J. Mayo MEMP SG 0.622
250 Chase Budinger HOUS SF 0.621
251 Roger Mason SANA SG 0.619
252 Caron Butler WASH SF 0.617
253 Peja Stojakovic NORL SF 0.615
254 Marreese Speights PHIL PF 0.613
255 Jamaal Tinsley MEMP PG 0.613
256 Bobby Brown NORL PG 0.611
257 Jonas Jerebko DETR SF 0.610
258 Omri Casspi SACR SF 0.609
259 Kurt Thomas MILW PF 0.608
260 Thaddeus Young PHIL SF 0.607
261 Brandon Rush INDI SG 0.606
262 Hasheem Thabeet MEMP C 0.605
263 Damien Wilkins MINN SG 0.601
264 Rodney Carney PHIL SF 0.601
265 Earl Boykins WASH PG 0.599
266 J.J. Hickson CLEV PF 0.599
267 Willie Green PHIL SG 0.598
268 Anthony Parker CLEV SG 0.596
269 Jamaal Magloire MIAM C 0.594
270 Wesley Matthews UTAH SG 0.592
271 Devean George GOLS SG 0.592
272 Richard Hamilton DETR SG 0.592
273 Kevin Martin SACR SG 0.591
274 Andrea Bargnani TORO C 0.591
275 Ryan Gomes MINN SF 0.589
276 Thabo Sefolosha OKLA SF 0.589
277 Rafer Alston NJRS PG 0.589
278 Tracy McGrady NWYR SG 0.588
279 Marco Belinelli TORO SG 0.587
280 Michael Finley BOST SF 0.585
281 Marcus Williams MEMP PG 0.583
282 Martell Webster PORT SG 0.583
283 Charlie Villanueva DETR PF 0.582

MARGINAL ROLE PLAYERS / RARELY START
284 Derek Fisher LALK PG 0.578
285 Jannero Pargo CHIC PG 0.577
286 Toney Douglas NWYR PG 0.577
287 Chris Hunter GOLS PF 0.576
288 Derrick Brown CHAR SF 0.575
289 Yi Jianlian NJRS PF 0.575
290 Nathan Jawai MINN PF 0.575
291 Ime Udoka SACR SG 0.574
292 Sergio Rodriguez NWYR PG 0.574
293 Arron Afflalo DENV SG 0.573
294 Kevin Martin HOUS SG 0.572
295 Hakim Warrick MILW PF 0.571
296 Al Thornton WASH SF 0.569
297 Will Bynum DETR PG 0.568
298 Jonny Flynn MINN PG 0.568
299 James Posey NORL SF 0.564
300 Mikki Moore GOLS C 0.561
301 Darius Songaila NORL PF 0.561
302 Jerryd Bayless PORT PG 0.556
303 Jon Brockman SACR PF 0.554
304 Sasha Vujacic LALK SG 0.554
305 Dante Cunningham PORT SF 0.551
306 Michael Redd MILW SG 0.551
307 Eric Gordon LACL SG 0.550
308 C.J. Miles UTAH SF 0.549
309 Al Thornton LACL SF 0.547
310 Julian Wright NORL SF 0.545
311 Jeff Teague ATLA PG 0.544
312 Marquis Daniels BOST SG 0.543
313 Dahntay Jones INDI SG 0.542
314 Chris Douglas-Roberts NJRS SG 0.541
315 Zaza Pachulia ATLA C 0.538
316 Etan Thomas OKLA C 0.538
317 Sonny Weems TORO SG 0.537
318 Devin Brown NORL SG 0.533
319 Jason Maxiell DETR PF 0.532
320 Bill Walker NWYR SG 0.532
321 Courtney Lee NJRS SG 0.528
322 James Jones MIAM SF 0.525
323 Donte Greene SACR SF 0.524
324 Kenny Thomas SACR PF 0.523
325 Wayne Ellington MINN SG 0.521
326 Juwan Howard PORT PF 0.520

POOR PLAYERS / SHOULD NEVER START
327 Charlie Bell MILW SG 0.518
328 Corey Brewer MINN SF 0.518
329 Hakim Warrick CHIC PF 0.514
330 DeAndre Jordan LACL C 0.512
331 Rasual Butler LACL SG 0.509
332 Glen Davis BOST PF 0.508
333 Sam Young MEMP SF 0.508
334 Austin Daye DETR SF 0.507
335 Ronald Murray CHIC SG 0.504
336 Vladimir Radmanovic GOLS SF 0.494
337 Solomon Jones INDI PF 0.493
338 Ben Gordon DETR SG 0.491
339 James Johnson CHIC PF 0.487
340 Rafer Alston MIAM PG 0.482
341 Eduardo Najera DALL PF 0.482
342 Chucky Atkins DETR PG 0.477
343 Earl Clark PHNX SF 0.474
344 Joey Graham DENV SF 0.473
345 Fabricio Oberto WASH C 0.468
346 Jason Smith PHIL PF 0.466
347 Andres Nocioni SACR SF 0.464
348 Jared Jeffries HOUS PF 0.462
349 Nick Young WASH SG 0.462
350 Maurice Evans ATLA SF 0.462
351 Keith Bogans SANA SG 0.462
352 Josh Howard DALL SF 0.460

VERY POOR PLAYERS
353 Eddie House NWYR SG 0.454
354 Joe Smith ATLA PF 0.453
355 Kwame Brown DETR C 0.452
356 Antoine Wright TORO SF 0.451
357 Darrell Arthur MEMP PF 0.443
358 Jarvis Hayes NJRS SF 0.438
359 Ricky Davis LACL SF 0.437
360 Mardy Collins LACL PG 0.436
361 Malik Hairston SANA SG 0.433
362 Jeff Pendergraph PORT PF 0.432
363 Jermaine Taylor HOUS SG 0.428
364 Chris Wilcox DETR C 0.417
365 DeMar DeRozan TORO SG 0.414
366 Jodie Meeks MILW SG 0.413
367 Quinton Ross DALL SF 0.406

EXTREMELY POOR PLAYERS
368 Morris Peterson NORL SG 0.394
369 Josh Powell LALK PF 0.386
370 Jason Kapono PHIL SG 0.383
371 Jawad Williams CLEV SF 0.369
372 DeMarre Carroll MEMP SF 0.357
373 Ryan Hollins MINN C 0.351
374 Steve Novak LACL SF 0.345
375 Trenton Hassell NJRS SF 0.342
376 Brian Scalabrine BOST C 0.329
377 Michael Finley SANA SF 0.321
378 Sasha Pavlovic MINN SG 0.314
379 DeShawn Stevenson WASH SG 0.287
380 Malik Allen DENV PF 0.282
381 DaJuan Summers DETR SF 0.266

SCALE FOR REGULAR SEASON REAL PLAYER RATINGS
Perfect for all Practical Purposes / Major Historic Super Star 1.100 and more
Historic Super Star 1.000 1.099
Super Star 0.900 0.999
A Star Player / A well above normal starter 0.820 0.899
Very Good Player / A solid starter 0.760 0.819
Major Role Player / Good enough to start 0.700 0.759
Good Role Player / Often a good 6th man 0.640 0.699
Satisfactory Role Player / Usually do not start 0.580 0.639
Marginal Role Player / Rarely start 0.520 0.579
Poor Player / Should never start 0.460 0.519
Very Poor Player 0.400 0.459
Extremely Poor Player .399 and less

AVERAGE RATINGS BY POSITION
Not all positions are created equal. These are the average ratings by position among all NBA players who play 300 minutes or more. There are very few small forwards and shooting guards who are superstars. Most (but definitely not all) superstars are players who can play point guard, power forward, or center.

Point Guard .750
Shooting Guard .640
Small Forward .640
Power Forward .720
Center .750
All Positions / All Players (NBA Overall Average) .700

PLAYOFF GRADE PLAYERS
Playoff Grade Players have ratings of .560 and higher. Players with ratings below .560 should not play in the playoffs unless the team is forced to play them so that they have two players at a position and/or so that the team has at least eight players playing in the playoffs and/or because the coach is absolutely certain the low rating player will play better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.

REGULAR SEASON STARTING PLAYERS
All starters on all teams should have ratings of .575 and higher. If a team has no player at a postion with at least a .575 rating, then it is extremely deficient at that position due to injuries or due to management incompetence.

THE ALL IMPORTANT, AWARD WINNING REAL PLAYER RATINGS USER GUIDE
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